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re: Article: “Heres how dumb Barr’s... Mifsud theory is”

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Posted by tide06
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Posted by sotex
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 8:27 am to
Mifsud as a Russian spy is a real mystery given his connections to BoJo, HRC, the DNC, and FBI.

LINK

LINK

He was an OCUNUS lure, which is why the US got several of his blackberries back recently. He’s documented having done what he was contracted and paid to do, by the US.

LINK
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 8:31 am to
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a tip Papadopoulos blurted out to an Australian diplomat in an indiscretion that reached the FBI and started the ball rolling.


They make it sound as if Papadopoulos was volunteering the information. Downer was extracting the information.

Mifsud was the push. Mifsud told Papadapoulos about the emails.

Downer was the pull. Downer inquired about the emails (at the London wine bar).


It was a push pull operation. This is a well known FBI/CIA strategy to set people up.

Once Downer pulled the information the FBI had the information they needed to form a justification to acquire a FISA warrant.

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Barr’s interest is all part of a broader effort pushed obsessively by President Donald Trump


It's more than just Trump. There is a very large contingency of Trump supporters and white hats within the federal government who want this investigated.

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in an effort to prove, at least in the public mind, that he was the victim of a conspiracy in 2016 rather than the beneficiary of one.


MUH Russia has already been proven to be a hoax but the Daily Beast is still running with it. However because MUH Russia IS a hoax, we must get to the bottom of the conspiracy.

If Trump was not a victim of a conspiracy the Daily Beast has nothing to worry about but the narrative in this article sure makes them look like they are covering for the guilty.

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Trump’s pressure on the recently elected government in Ukraine to promote this line features in the impeachment proceedings against him


This statement is a LIE. If you read the transcript there was/is no pressure. In fact Zelenskyy not only said there was/is no pressure he volunteered to Trump on the call to root out corruption. His path to victory in the Ukraine was an anti corruption campaign.

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But Mifsud’s deep, long-standing connections with Russian President Vladimir Putin’s foreign-policy establishment and the highly favorable views he has expressed publicly about Russia’s role in global affairs show just how far Barr has barked up the wrong tree.


I'm sure Mifsud does have some Russian contacts.

However to this day Comney still maintains that Papadopolous met with a Russian asset. Mifsud is not a Russian asset.

Mifsud is a Maltese professor who teaches a Link Campus University in Rome.

Link Campus University is well know for courses taught to western intelligence officials. The FBI and CIA have a close relationship with Link Campus University for employment training purposes.

This is the broader connection.

Barr traveled to Rome to investigate the details of the relationship especially between Mifsud and Brennan.




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Link Campus University instructs NATO intelligence personnel[2] and the US intelligence and law enforcement officials are also involved with Link.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 8:34 am to
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On a side note. This is one of my all time favorite gifs. Makes me LOL almost every time.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 8:39 am to
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the Daily Beast


Posted by the_watcher
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 8:39 am to
It’s simple. If Mifsud was a Russian spy, why wasn’t Pappadopolous charged with conspiracy to collude with a foreign power. It is a fact these two met. It is a fact Mifsud told him about Russians and emails.

Furthermore, the FBI interviewed Mifsud in Feb of 2017 in America. Why wasn’t he arrested or charged with anything related to the Russian conspiracy? Why not? Meuller charged 12 Russians behind a computer in Moscow plus a company that doesn’t even exist. Yet he has a “real Russian spy” in his interview room and just lets him walk out?
This post was edited on 10/31/19 at 8:40 am
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 8:42 am to






Mifsud attends a confrence in DC invited by the State Department AFTER meeting with Papadizzle and the FBI maintains Mifsud is a Russian asset.

This post was edited on 10/31/19 at 8:45 am
Posted by Vecchio Cane
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 8:44 am to
Wait, Daily Beast is mainstream media?

Stop this crazy world and let me off
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 8:46 am to
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did they have to if the intel came from the other agencies?


Well, this part is somewhat complicated - if we assume a source that is less well known than Mifsud in intelligence circles, it goes like this:

Agency A works the source. Typically, only the primary source handler directly interacts with the source, although with certain sources, it might be an entire team. The only people who "know" the source's identity is that handler (or team of handlers), and at some higher level, there is a deconfliction source - i.e. someone who knows all the source identities to make sure multiple handlers aren't working the same source.

The breakdown occurs is when the same source works different agencies - the real danger there is when something like Curveball happens - there is no "international" deconfliction authority (and can't be because of the nature of the intelligence business) - one would only hope that your own CI assets figure out that he is a double/triple (or more) down the line and raises a red flag, but "hope" isn't a reliable course of action.

Now, within the U.S., I must assume some greater level of deconfliction is occurring, but with the now infamous "Gorelick" wall between the FBI and CIA, I can't even say there is a centralized source under the DNI that deconflicts these things, even today. From an "actual" practice standpoint, my experience in this area is at a very low level and now quite stale, but the basics of human intelligence changes very little over time - it is not nearly as technology driven as signals or imagery intelligence as two examples.

Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 8:48 am to
This thread thoroughly debunks the lie that Mifsud is/was a Russian asset. Now, when it is proven that Mifsud is a western intelligence asset by Barr were does the case go from here? Indictments?
Posted by wutangfinancial
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 8:56 am to
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Mifsud has been interacting with western intel in a documented, public way (speeches, teaching classes, etc) for better than 20 years.


Go listen to the Bongino episode where he talks about his connections to western intelligence. He calls him Jason Bourne because he either is a Russian asset and is the GOAT spy for getting so close to Western Intel sources or he's not intelligence and the story was all made up.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 9:02 am to
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Now, when it is proven that Mifsud is a western intelligence asset by Barr were does the case go from here? Indictments?

if Mifusd is proven to be a Western asset and this op was orchestrated by Western "allies", then there is going to be some shite

effectively, Australia and/or the UK are guilty of the crimes we alleged Russia was (interfering with our elections). q
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 9:06 am to
but i'm saying, US agents likely never directly communicated with Mifsud. it seems like they coordinated with Western intel assets in the UK and AUS, and THOSE guys ran the op. this way, when WE got the intel (from Downer, likely) it was "cleansed" of US influence. so domestic LEO could present that intel to a FISA court without disclosing their role in the operation (b/c it came to them as "foreign intelligence"). this means, no need to worry about things like that declaration (since it wasn't our operation and our guys didn't contact Mifsud)
Posted by Goforit
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 9:10 am to
Mifsud confessed.....in taped recording!
Posted by TSmith
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 9:10 am to
It is articles like this that show how desperate they are to get ahead of what is coming. Depends undergarments are overflowing on the left.
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 9:12 am to
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Posted by bmy
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 9:13 am to
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In doing this they were attempting to unseat a duly elected US President, which is defined as sedition punishable by life in prison


How would this unseat a president?
This post was edited on 10/31/19 at 9:20 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 9:14 am to
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US agents likely never directly communicated with Mifsud.


I don't think there is any chance that "never" happened. Certainly it is possible for information to be routed ("laundered" like money) through allied nations' intelligence services, but this goes beyond an information source. This was an active asset running, essentially, a counterintelligence operation. At some point, our CI assets would have had to contact him, just to figure out his allegiances and real employers. And if we never did that, it means he was a U.S. asset.

So, one has to figure out for whom he was primarily working (and I can't see from what is reported) - which nation and which agency. The rest of the flowchart will be relatively easy to put together afterwards.
This post was edited on 10/31/19 at 9:17 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 9:15 am to
if the eye ties gave Barr his blackberry, then we may know

like i said in my big thread on this. there is no shock that this turned criminal after they got done in Italy
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 9:15 am to
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It is a fact these two met. It is a fact Mifsud told him about Russians and emails.


Doesn't Mifsud deny this?
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