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Article: “Heres how dumb Barr’s... Mifsud theory is”

Posted on 10/31/19 at 7:44 am
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 7:44 am
This is the first MSM article that attempts to tackle Mifsud head on.

Daily Beast

quote:

Attorney General William Barr has been looking into the Maltese professor Joseph Mifsud, whose discussion with Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos helped set off the FBI investigation of possible coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia in 2016. It was Mifsud who told Papadopoulos about the “dirt” the Russians had on Hillary Clinton in the form of “thousands of emails,” a tip Papadopoulos blurted out to an Australian diplomat in an indiscretion that reached the FBI and started the ball rolling. Barr’s interest is all part of a broader effort pushed obsessively by President Donald Trump in an effort to prove, at least in the public mind, that he was the victim of a conspiracy in 2016 rather than the beneficiary of one. Trump’s pressure on the recently elected government in Ukraine to promote this line features in the impeachment proceedings against him


quote:

But Mifsud’s deep, long-standing connections with Russian President Vladimir Putin’s foreign-policy establishment and the highly favorable views he has expressed publicly about Russia’s role in global affairs show just how far Barr has barked up the wrong tree.


From there it goes in to detail about Mifsud contacts and timelines.

Looking forward to some analysis from our poliboard experts who know a lot more about Mifsud than I.
This post was edited on 10/31/19 at 7:52 am
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14977 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 7:47 am to
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But Mifsud’s deep, long-standing connections with Russian President Vladimir Putin’s foreign-policy establishment and the highly favorable views he has expressed publicly about Russia’s role in global affairs show just how far Barr has barked up the wrong tree. And Professor Mifsud is right in the middle of it.


DB still trying to milk the debunked Russia collusion hoax.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476092 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 7:47 am to
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But Mifsud’s deep, long-standing connections with Russian President Vladimir Putin’s foreign-policy establishment and the highly favorable views he has expressed publicly about Russia’s role in global affairs show just how far Barr has barked up the wrong tree.


oh boy. HERE WE GO
Posted by Big Jim Slade
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 7:47 am to
Will hopefully soon be put in the “this didn’t age well” stack.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63355 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 7:49 am to
Muh Russians! They will not let this go!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476092 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 7:49 am to
quote:

Muh Russians! They will not let this go!

they HAVE to because if Mifsud wasn't coordinating/assisting Russia, THE ENTIRE NARRATIVE falls apart. literally
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95526 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 7:52 am to
Mifsud being a Western intelligence asset isn't really a theory - it's more or less accepted at this point.

And a Daily Beast "journalist" can't understand why a guy who is covertly working for Western intelligence services wouldn't publicly be praising leaders in areas he is supposed to be operating?

Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 7:55 am to
Did the FBI give Misfud the "information" to pass on to Pop, who then gave it to the Australian who then, through a third party (johnmccain), pass it back to the FBI?
This post was edited on 10/31/19 at 8:00 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476092 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 7:57 am to
quote:

And a Daily Beast "journalist" can't understand why a guy who is covertly working for Western intelligence services wouldn't publicly be praising leaders in areas he is supposed to be operating?

i love how the argument is "you're dumb for believing this", basically

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 7:57 am to
quote:

Did the FBI give Misfud the "information" to pass on to Pop, when then gave it to the Australian who then, through a third party (johnmccain) pass it back to the FBI?




*ETA: no actual "information" was ever passed around. just words about "information" existing
This post was edited on 10/31/19 at 7:59 am
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23098 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 8:03 am to

This post was edited on 1/18/21 at 5:12 pm
Posted by alatxtgr
The Nation of Texas
Member since Sep 2006
2404 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 8:04 am to
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Did the FBI give Misfud the "information" to pass on to Pop, when then gave it to the Australian who then, through a third party (johnmccain) pass it back to the FBI?
Sounds like information laundering the way they pass the hot potato from country to country. The Senate needs to start hearings involving all of these countries to shine light on the origins of this stank...
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 8:07 am to
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This post was edited on 1/18/21 at 5:12 pm
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19516 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 8:07 am to
Libs and their projection
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 8:08 am to
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-The FBI, DOJ and CIA knew this unequivocally during the investigation because they didn’t file any required outside contact reports after their many interactions with Mifsud as they would’ve had to by policy if he were really Russian


This part is critical - if you DON'T do this (if he was really Russian), then you're guilty of espionage and your only choice at that point is to become a cooperating witness to avoid prosecution.



Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 8:10 am to
I guess I just missed any reference to Mifsud’s phones that were turned over to the DOJ?
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 8:11 am to
When I read about Misfud adventures last year, I thought it would change MSM narrative when it was exposed.

Once again I overestimated the integrity from our adversary. Guess I will have to review my Sun Tsu (never underestimate your adversary).
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 8:12 am to
Interesting Re: Mifsud, Papad and his wife Simona Mangiante

quote:

LINK

Stephan Roh, Mr. Mifsud’s attorney, told The Times he provided the deposition recording to Mr. Durham’s team in midsummer.

In an email exchange with The Times, Mr. Roh talked of his client’s “missions and engagements.”

Asked whether this is in the recording and an accompanying transcript, Mr. Roh said, “In relation to the LCILP, yes. Outside recordings, he explained us more.”

LCILP is the now-defunct London Center of International Law Practice. It was the link that brought Mr. Mifsud together with George Papadopoulos, a Trump campaign adviser and energy consultant.

Mr. Roh later wrote, “The LCILP was not ‘real.’ It was rather a cover-up for intelligence agents.”
This post was edited on 10/31/19 at 8:13 am
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 8:13 am to
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This post was edited on 1/18/21 at 5:11 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 8:13 am to
quote:

This part is critical - if you DON'T do this (if he was really Russian), then you're guilty of espionage and your only choice at that point is to become a cooperating witness to avoid prosecution.

did they have to if the intel came from the other agencies?

the brilliance in the plan, if the CT is true, is that they got around all of our procedural rules/laws and DP by having this be intelligence from another country(ies). this removes the responsibility and agency of our own intel/LEO apparatus
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