re: Are you a nationalist?

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. We need other countries. 

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Well, then, to the extent we need other countries and negotiate with them and help them, we aren't putting them first to our detriment. We are still putting ourselves first and if that means cooperation and aid then great. If it means war, then so be it. This isn't difficult. You're being obtuse. (sort of like when you define "gay" as having nothing to do with sexuality even though it means "homosexual.")

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Message Are you a nationalist? by Powerman I think you guys might be missing the point America first obviously. But it doesn't necessarily have to be at the detriment of other countries. Particularly our allies and trading partners. We don't live in some self sufficient utopia. We need other countries. Sometimes it's in our long term best interest for other countries to succeed as well. Not our enemies obviously but our allies and trading partners need to be healthy for us to thrive. Nationalism taken to its logical extreme is short sighted and will have long term consequences.

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First of all I don’t agree with the definition OP posted. The “especially to the detriment of other nations” part is made up. When you’re a nationalist you put your country first bottom line. But just because you put your country first it doesn’t mean another country has to be hurt. Sometimes they will be but that definition makes it seem as though you aren’t a nationalist unless another country is being hurt 100% of the time.

Better definition:

loyalty and devotion to a nation
especially : a sense of national consciousness (see CONSCIOUSNESS sense 1c) exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups

yep

Do you think I’m saying overnight, or that we are incapable of growing trees or producing synthetics which is already the bulk anyway? You truly are exceptional or being intentionally obtuse.

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Are you a nationalist?


Yes

and white

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I used to be white, then I became something else, then changed again, now I identify as other.

Define white. Is it the absence of color, or is it like visible light and a combination of all colors?

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That would be an illogical extreme because you’re saying there are reasons helping other countries is in America’s interest.

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Correct. But the hardcore nationalists don't see it that way

They think giving a penny of foreign aid makes you a globalist cuck

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Nationalism taken to its logical extreme is short sighted

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A/K/a hyper-nationalism, and Nazism is the easiest example (at the risk of Godwin's law).

Basically, hyper-nationalism destroys diversity by wiping out other cultures. This causes other cultures to go into self defense mode and gang up to destroy the hyper-nationalist threat. Which is exactly what happened in WWII.

Nationalism in the right moderation is helpful and healthy. Just don't go hyper with it.

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or producing synthetics which is already the bulk anyway

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The problem is synthetics aren't strong enough to make things like tires. That's why those things are at least partially made up of natural rubber.

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You truly are exceptional or being intentionally obtuse.

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Let me know when you think Americans have the stomach to grow and cultivate rubber from trees. It's not exactly a glamorous or particularly lucrative endeavor despite being critical to the global economy.

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person who strongly identifies with their own nation and vigorously supports its interests

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For sure

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especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nation

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Not necessarily this, looking to intentionally exclude or cause detriment to other countries that aren’t enemies is short sided and dumb. Putting others down to make yourself look good is bad for you in the long run

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Correct. But the hardcore nationalists don't see it that way They think giving a penny of foreign aid makes you a globalist cuck

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Who are these " hardcore nationalists"? Can you name names?