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re: Are these quotes from MAGA, Bernie Sanders, Obama, or AOC?
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:34 pm to NC_Tigah
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:34 pm to NC_Tigah
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IMO, it was done to protect Obama (where's-your-magic-wand) Administrative Economic incompetence.
It continued through the entire Trump admin
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You could make the argument you're attempting prior to the Fannie/Freddie crash in Sept 2008. Not after.
Was QE prior or after Sept 2008?
Was ZIRP prior or after Sept 2008?
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Wait! Who is making that argument????
shouldn't be looked at a path to create that wealth today.
The proposition related to 2012-2022.
Stay on subject.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:37 pm to Wednesday
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I just look at my sweet hometown and it hurts my heart and makes me want to smack TF out of people like SFP who prize cheap crap made in China above all else. It’s gross. Just snobbish and gross
You have an excuse for making posts like this.
You are an actual woman.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:38 pm to NC_Tigah
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The proposition related to 2012-2022.
Without Zirp, QE, and a host of other manipulation, what would have happened to housing prices in that time?
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
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It continued through the entire Trump admin
The FFR increased 250% in Trump's first 2-3 yrs.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:What happened to them with ZIRP?
Without Zirp, QE, and a host of other manipulation, what would have happened to housing prices in that time?
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:43 pm to NC_Tigah
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What happened to them with ZIRP?
Pricing was artificially inflated, as intended.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That was another intentional part of the policy to inflate housing values
I have no idea where you are going with this. I’m not sure you understand how contradictory your comments are.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:55 pm to NC_Tigah
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Yikes! Might there have been another motivation?
I’m struggling with this onePosted on 4/7/25 at 7:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Pricing was artificially inflated, as intended.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:57 pm to VOR
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lot of Trump voters on this board seem to think that the working poor must have some sort of character flaw.
What an idiot lol
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
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It's not just my stance, or, at least, used to be just not my stance. That was the DOMINANT view on here. Anti-socialism and anti-leftism.
True but it goes beyond that. The politicians and special interests groups along with many other “heavy weight” influencers have shaped us into a “you are part of the club” rich. Luckily I am good as my company has done fair or even good during the political and LAWFARE.
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More leftism. Easy for me to oppose.
Well sure it is!! Until you realize that it’s uniparty or more importantly globalism. At the end of the day it is those that want power regardless. Power means wealth.
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Trade has little to do with public debt, other than creating a GDP that can thwart it somewhat. Hurting GDP by fricking with trade is going to make dealing with public debt much harder.
Well sure we have had discussions about this before. National debt is public debt. You will question how? National debt has to be subsidized by currency printing (which causes the dollar value to decrease) which causes inflation. With that being said, the bottom line is something has to be done about our debt and deficit (yes our trade deficit is part of it whether you want it to be or not). Over spending and big government play a bigger role but they combined equal our problem.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:58 pm to OceanMan
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I have no idea where you are going with this.
It's pretty clear. The federal government engaged in multiple policies to purposefully inflate RE prices after the 2008 crash. This didn't end until 2022.
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I’m not sure you understand how contradictory your comments are.
Which comments are contradictory?
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:58 pm to NC_Tigah
Let's put that in perspective ....
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:59 pm to NC_Tigah
That red line should have continued for some time, and would have, but-for the trillions printed and artificially low rates (among other policies)
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:02 pm to Warboo
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The politicians and special interests groups along with many other “heavy weight” influencers have shaped us into a “you are part of the club” rich.
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uniparty or more importantly globalism.
bruh
Have you ever thought that these catch phrases ingrained in your head that you feel the need to repeat are intentionally used by other "heavy weight influencers" to backdoor leftism?
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With that being said, the bottom line is something has to be done about our debt and deficit
And I argue having GDP decrease hurts that goal, by decreasing tax receipts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:05 pm to NC_Tigah
Again, that slope in the 00s until 08 was clearly too steep, and then the following correction was not long enough.
All the while
I wonder why the increase is so big from 2009 onward
All the while
I wonder why the increase is so big from 2009 onward
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 8:06 pm
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
It trips me the frick out what Trump has done to the American political landscape.
The guy turned MAGA into a populist, class driven Democrat movement. He drove the Democrat Party itself into a progressive nightmare of pure shite. And in doing both these things, he finally killed true Conservatism. The kind of individualism and self reliant conservative principles our parents or grandparents knew is gone.
Conservatism now means some bizarre Bernie Sanders/Donald Trump mix of class warfare, limited capitalism and Government intervention. This country is now MAGA Democrat or socialist progressive.
Strange times we live in.
The guy turned MAGA into a populist, class driven Democrat movement. He drove the Democrat Party itself into a progressive nightmare of pure shite. And in doing both these things, he finally killed true Conservatism. The kind of individualism and self reliant conservative principles our parents or grandparents knew is gone.
Conservatism now means some bizarre Bernie Sanders/Donald Trump mix of class warfare, limited capitalism and Government intervention. This country is now MAGA Democrat or socialist progressive.
Strange times we live in.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Should it?
That red line should have continued for some time
Really?
"That red line" is in nominal dollars and sq ft unadjusted btw.
Were it not for tax advantage and leverage, one would do far better in the market.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:14 pm to Pandy Fackler
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It trips me the frick out what Trump has done to the American political landscape.
The guy turned MAGA into a populist, class driven Democrat movement. He drove the Democrat Party itself into a progressive nightmare of pure shite. And in doing both these things, he finally killed true Conservatism. The kind of individualism and self reliant conservative principles our parents or grandparents knew is gone.
I disagree.
The base abandoned conservatism all on their own. Trump is the result, not the cause of that abandonment.
And I don't blame the base for doing so from the standpoint of having lost all faith in supposedly conservative Republicans who did little to uphold conservative values.
I do blame the base for being foolish. The dumbest thing you can do when you are upset that your representatives aren't conservative enough is to completely abandon conservatism in favor of populism. But that's what they did.
They equated Republicans failing to be conservative with conservatism failing.
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Conservatism now means some bizarre Bernie Sanders/Donald Trump mix of class warfare, limited capitalism and Government intervention.
Nah, it means what it has always meant. Like I told someone earlier, a guy with a dick and balls is still a guy, no matter what he says he is.
MAGA is a populist collectivist mixed bag that over time will continue to lean farther and farther left. Regardless of what its adherents call it.
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 8:18 pm
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