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re: Are these children dying during this separation?
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:54 am to sicboy
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:54 am to sicboy
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In a childs world, the absolute worst thing you can do is take them away from mommy and daddy
These arent even there parents baw
And if you dont think the trek to get there was traumatizing not sure what to say
Getting good food. Video games. Shower. Bed. Trips to the zoo helps them to cope
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:55 am to SDVTiger
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These arent even there parents baw
I love how you hear something once and really grasp on to it.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:57 am to sicboy
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It's not just the scary dems that are opposed to this.
I think the only ones who are for this policy are trump fanbois and people who hate hispanics.
Sen hatch is supposedly about to get a letter to sessions asking him to rescind the policy.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:57 am to sicboy
I heard it from Border Patrol agents
They separate out of fear of trafficking
Sorry you are a sheeple to CNN
They separate out of fear of trafficking
Sorry you are a sheeple to CNN
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:58 am to clooneyisgod
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They're not being waterboarded. I guess that's true. But taking 4 year old kids away from their parents like this is probably pretty traumatic.
Bringing your 4 year old child along while you break laws in another country is traumatic for a child.
Poor child, it sucks to have such shitty parents.
Why cant these people do what needs to be done to better their own countries? And before one of you liberal communist asswipes say "its too dangerous, they have drug cartels and no guns" to do in their own country consider that 242 years ago some brave British subjects fought against the undeniably most powerful nation at that time.
And sent them packing. These leaches should fix their own fricking country instead of just coming to America.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:58 am to brian_wilson
Here's the thing that gets me: so this is an Obama policy, right? Trump hasn't held back from trying to undo everything Barry did while in office. But now "it's the law, what can we do, do something, Democrats".
It's like he's using it as a tool.
It's like he's using it as a tool.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:59 am to TBoy
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No, we won't wait until they are dead, despite what you want.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:59 am to SDVTiger
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I heard it from Border Patrol agents
Oh. Was this at brunch?
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:00 am to TigerBait1971
What this is is the introduction into right wing America of the idea that the lives of non-Americans have no value. Dehumanization. This is why we fought two world wars. This is what the Catholic Church has fought against for a hundred years. The priority of humanism.
Now watch the devil respond.
Now watch the devil respond.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:00 am to sicboy
So what's your suggestion?
I see a lot of complaining but not many solutions.
I see a lot of complaining but not many solutions.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:01 am to sicboy
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Here's the thing that gets me: so this is an Obama policy, right?
But iit isn’t.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:01 am to TBoy
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lives of non-Americans have no value. Dehumanization.
quote:Good lord.
This is why we fought two world wars.
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The priority of humanism.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:02 am to sicboy
No over beers. Sorry you are a sheeple
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:06 am to sicboy
1) i don't see that as you bragging on yourself. and if someone on here does, frick em. it takes a very special and selfless set of people to adopt and you should be commended for it. that's amazing dude.
2) I get what your underlying point, of a lot of these underprivileged children have suffered trauma and experiences we have no idea about, that can spur an emotional breakdown at any point. and in many cases, not even time can fix those insecurities caused by something completely out of their control.
3) the difference is, the type of love, care, and support you give your children vs these families. you wouldn't knowingly put your children in that situation because you wouldn't want them to experience a drop of the trauma it could cause.
i don't have children. i want them. i want them now. but the wife is 6 years younger than me. so we plan to enjoy being young a few more years. which gives us time to take chances both financially and in our fun. but the day my wife tells me she's pregnant, you better believe it'll all be reigned in drastically. that's because that child, much like i guarantee is yours, will be the one and only top priority. their safety, their well-being, their health, all of it. it's being a good parent. you know that better than anyone now.
i wouldn't take my family to Disney World if i knew it meant my kids had to go sit and wait somewhere by themselves a few hours, while me and the wife took care of paperwork or payments or whatever. much less cross a border illegally, knowing i would get snatched up eventually and processed.
2) I get what your underlying point, of a lot of these underprivileged children have suffered trauma and experiences we have no idea about, that can spur an emotional breakdown at any point. and in many cases, not even time can fix those insecurities caused by something completely out of their control.
3) the difference is, the type of love, care, and support you give your children vs these families. you wouldn't knowingly put your children in that situation because you wouldn't want them to experience a drop of the trauma it could cause.
i don't have children. i want them. i want them now. but the wife is 6 years younger than me. so we plan to enjoy being young a few more years. which gives us time to take chances both financially and in our fun. but the day my wife tells me she's pregnant, you better believe it'll all be reigned in drastically. that's because that child, much like i guarantee is yours, will be the one and only top priority. their safety, their well-being, their health, all of it. it's being a good parent. you know that better than anyone now.
i wouldn't take my family to Disney World if i knew it meant my kids had to go sit and wait somewhere by themselves a few hours, while me and the wife took care of paperwork or payments or whatever. much less cross a border illegally, knowing i would get snatched up eventually and processed.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:14 am to Klark Kent
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3) the difference is, the type of love, care, and support you give your children vs these families. you wouldn't knowingly put your children in that situation because you wouldn't want them to experience a drop of the trauma it could cause.
I mean, yeah, we can sit here and say that all day long, but if a majority of these cases are families who are trying to give their children a better life, better opportunity, away from the craziness, violence, and poverty of Mexico or where ever........I'm not going to judge them. I can't speak for that helplesness. If I knew there was a possibility that my kids could be taken from me or killed at any moment, a reality a lot of these people probably live, I'd been in constant dread and would be desperate to do anything.
I don't know what the perfect solution is. But I can't view these people as common criminals if they are truly attempting to protect their families in the best way they know how.
This post was edited on 6/19/18 at 10:15 am
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:24 am to TBoy
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What this is is the introduction into right wing America of the idea that the lives of non-Americans have no value.
1) You are really acting like they are lining up children against a wall and shooting them. They are being placed in a holding facility, being fed, bed, entertained until they are deported back to their parents.
2) If you truly think that 1 is akin to concentration camps, then what kind of shitty parents are marching their kids to these concentration camps.
3) the fact that you can't reconcile 1 and 2 and realize you are simply being an emotional jackoff is a pretty sad state of affairs. Get a grip, Sally Mae!
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:39 am to TBoy
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What this is is the introduction into right wing America of the idea that the lives of non-Americans have no value.
Literally zero people have said this.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 11:03 am to LSUDeadboy
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Edit: typo
That whole post was a typo.
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