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Are modern presidents basically inconsequential?

Posted on 8/30/26 at 3:51 pm
Posted by aib799
Member since Jul 2014
611 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 3:51 pm
With the inability to pass law, they increasingly rely on executive order to change things on a whim. None of those things stick long term so they really all seem like a flash in the pan.

Other than major foreign affair blunders by all of them, nothing that has been done really mattered in the grand scheme of things.

Will any of this ever change?
Posted by LEOPOLD2
Member since Aug 2026
62 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 3:57 pm to
We pretty much proved in the last term of it the guy whose name is on the desk doesn't even have to really be in charge!
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
77301 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 3:58 pm to
Yes
Few can win outside the club.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
11968 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 4:22 pm to
No, that is what makes them very consequential.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
118114 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

they increasingly rely on executive order to change things on a whim.

This contradicts the title of your post.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76332 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 4:28 pm to
No, they're the most consequential BECAUSE of Congress's inability to legislate. We have no steady course as a country because of the significant swings in policy brought about by way of the overreliance on the EO to govern. We have essentially neutered a third of our governmental system. It has — however fleeting a four to eight year stint is — concentrated way too much power into the hands of the Executive branch, creating a revolving soft dictatorship.

What it has done is make it nearly impossible for any president to build a true legacy, as those EOs are just as easily undone as they are done while amplifying the immediate impact of Executive authority on our daily lives.
This post was edited on 8/30/26 at 4:29 pm
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
117399 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 4:29 pm to
The opposite.

Congress' refusal to pass laws has resulted in government by EO.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
39556 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

With the inability to pass law
That's not his job nor his fault. We are a divided country as is the Congress.
Posted by aib799
Member since Jul 2014
611 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

This contradicts the title of your post


My rationale is that 6 months after Trump
Is out of office, the vast majority of his EOs will have been undone thus making him inconsequential.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
50062 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 4:56 pm to
Politicians are basically inconsequential
bro. You have to talk to their owners
Posted by SoFlaGuy
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Apr 2020
3521 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 5:10 pm to
Biden was as consequential as any president. Trump will be the most consequential and best, in modern history.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
37569 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 5:11 pm to
Yeah, sure, whatever. Now shoo.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76332 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

My rationale is that 6 months after Trump
Is out of office, the vast majority of his EOs will have been undone thus making him inconsequential.

If you're talking about direct impacts on your day-to-day life the drastic policy swings that occur every 4-8 years due to the overreliance on the Executive Order means the President has immense power. There is no stability in policy, no standards, nothing is codified — meaning that practically everything can change with the stroke of a pen.

Removing Congress, a third of our government, from the equation does nothing but concentrate power in the Executive because the only way an agenda or platform can be implemented is via the EO. What you're talking about is a President building a lasting legacy which doesn't happen anymore, but rest assured, the power of the Exective branch of our government has increased greatly at the expense of the Legislative branch. Whether people want to admit it or not, Donald Trump — via the EO and subsequent legal challenges to that authority — has done more than any other president in the modern era to consolidate power in the Executive. That is only a good thing as long as your team has the ball.
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
3398 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 5:35 pm to
If you think flooding the nation with millions is inconsequential, then yes they are
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
17655 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 5:40 pm to
Was Biden inconsequential?

Has Trump been inconsequential?

Was Osama inconsequential?

Would Killary had been inconsequential?

Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
12695 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 7:19 pm to
quote:



My rationale is that 6 months after Trump
Is out of office, the vast majority of his EOs will have been undone thus making him inconsequential.


Are you assuming a DEMOCRAT is going to win?
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
17677 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 7:38 pm to
quote:

With the inability to pass law,

Congress abdicated their duties long ago.
quote:

Congress has been criticized for abdicating its lawmaking responsibilities to the executive branch, allowing agency heads to create rules and regulations that effectively function as laws.

That all sounded like a great idea to them when the globalists were in power (GWB, Obama, Trump1 to some extent, Biden, etc) and likely created the avalanche of executive orders we've gotten in recent decades.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
18255 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 7:46 pm to
quote:

With the inability to pass law, they increasingly rely on executive order to change things on a whim.


Civics 101 aside, Presidents were not supposed to pass law, they were supposed to execute them. It's why he oversees the executive branch.

Presidents were never supposed to be able to swing the pendulum back and forth with EOs. That's as much on Congress as any POTUS.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
57660 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 8:43 pm to
quote:

Other than major foreign affair blunders by all of them, nothing that has been done really mattered in the grand scheme of things.

I sold my share of a business a few years ago and thanked God for Donald Trump’s tax cuts.
Posted by SnacknGold06
Member since Oct 2025
193 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 10:57 pm to
I’d say foreign blunders are pretty damn consequential.
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