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re: Are Jews somehow speically blessed or

Posted on 8/17/25 at 1:05 pm to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 8/17/25 at 1:05 pm to
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Nepotism != Smarts, but thanks for the Chosen Propaganda

Are you trying to say that nepotism does not equal smarts? Buddy, Jews didn’t win all of those Nobel Prizes due to nepotism. They won them because they consistently produce guys like Einstein. And every IQ test ever invented shows stubborn gaps among different races, with Jews always at the top. But yeah, the test are biased.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
40412 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 1:07 pm to
That's not at all the story that Tolkien was telling.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 8/17/25 at 1:09 pm to
The Jews, as a people, personify everything many here claim to desire: a hegemonic, close knit, mostly closed culture that values the nuclear family with the husband working and leading, the wife being domestic, education, hard work, and personal and financial responsibility.

Yet, they're hated for it.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 8/17/25 at 1:10 pm to


Jews are the greatest propaganda experts the world has ever seen. They've perfected the art of gaslighting.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73282 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 1:12 pm to
Tolkien scholars disagree

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While J.R.R. Tolkien did not explicitly state that his elves were intended to be a direct allegory for Jewish people, many scholars and fans have noted similarities between the two, particularly in terms of their history, culture, and relationship with other races. Some argue that the Elves' ancient culture, diaspora from their homeland, and connection to spirituality mirror Jewish experiences.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
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Posted on 8/17/25 at 1:12 pm to
Jews are a tiny percentage of population because they intermarry with non-Jews and don't raise the children as Jews. But that means there is a LOT of Jewish genes out there in non-Jews. I am one. My Grandma Jew married a Catholic.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/17/25 at 1:13 pm to
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Jews believe Jesus is burning in hell in a boiling pit of feces.


That is a very small subset of Jews.

A LOT of Jews don’t believe in an afterlife AT ALL!

The biggest cultural differences between Jews and Christians are:

1. Judaism has no tradition of evangelism. The religion is meant to remain contained and kept for the Jewish people, and is not meant to be spread to outsiders.

2. Jewish traditions like keeping Kosher continue to be adhered to in order for Jewish populations to purposefully differentiate themselves from their peers in service to keeping things insulted.

3. There is no concept of an afterlife. When you’re dead, you’re dead. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. You’re not judged after death, you were judged all throughout your life and punished accordingly while alive.

4. There is no mechanism for forgiveness of sins. Sin makes you mortal, and while you can atone, the only absolution is via death. This is the source of stereotypical “Jewish guilt.” It’s because unlike Christianity, there is no mechanism for relieving people of the shame of their mistakes, so they compile into guilt. There are opportunities to atone, but it’s never enough.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/17/25 at 1:13 pm to
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Jews believe Jesus is burning in hell in a boiling pit of feces.

Jews believe in Hell?

You learn something everyday
Posted by Marquesa
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 8/17/25 at 1:14 pm to
Getting Nobel Prizes at 110 times the rate of the general population is not gas lighting - it's something freakishly unlikely - miraculous.

Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10468 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 1:19 pm to
Jews are highly intelligent, frugal, have great family units and they are highly supportive of each other. All if those things are admirable qualities.

One cant deny though that they are highly prone to nepotism and promotion of alternative lifestyles, especially amongst secular Jews.

Though nothing justified the Holocaust, they 100% promoted vile behavior and communism during the Weimar Republic
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10468 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 1:21 pm to
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They will always be gods chosen people


False

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and not supporting them is a grave mistake


You people just cant be helped
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10468 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 1:22 pm to
You are so incredibly wrong about this
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6281 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 1:25 pm to
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So how does 0.20 of one percent of the population account for a quarter of the Nobel prizes?


I'll give you four theories.

1. God blessed them with intelligence, but like Paul says, the Gospel is no respecter of intelligence, it is a stumbling block unto the wise.
Unto who much is given, much is expected.

2. Culture culture culture.
We are talking about a culture that has praised knowledge and memorization for centuries.
Smart women sought smart men who could memorize scripture, that was and is their culture.
Jewish scientists mentor Jewish scientists, they see their success as being continued by their mentees. No other culture is like this. Trust me I know more than one top level researcher who would rather mentor new fresh out of college kids than those who are going to replace him in 5 years, it's not like that with Jewish researchers, they mentor people in their 50s while they are in their 80s.

3 Darwinism
Antisemitism made them prioritize knowledge when no other culture did.
Holocaust murdered the weakest and dumbest.
All that are left are multiple generations of immigrants bouncing around the world, survivors of a much larger population, with a chip on their shoulder.

4. Lobbying.
Yea, previous winners have huge influence in future winners. Especially in things like Economics which is a popularity contest.

It's probably some combination of all the above.
Posted by Marquesa
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 8/17/25 at 1:26 pm to
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Jews are highly intelligent, frugal, have great family units and they are highly supportive of each other. All if those things are admirable qualities.


So are Indians and other Asians. They aren't getting Nobel Prizes at 110 the rate per capita. That's over two orders of magnitude. Before you brush it off to culture alone - stop and think about that for a minute. It's not explainable by natural means.

Per Grok....

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The probability of an event occurring at 110 times the normal rate is effectively 0% (less than $ 10^{-100} $) for a normal distribution with a large z-score (e.g., z = 5), as such an extreme deviation is virtually impossible under standard conditions.
Posted by yakster
Member since Mar 2021
3606 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 1:27 pm to
You are totally wrong on your comment and he is correct. Maybe you should study biblical history a little more. Jesus came through Jewish lineage. You know Him right? The king of the Jews.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
42287 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 1:29 pm to
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The Jews were chosen by God above other human flocks.


According to the Jewish written Old Testament.

I'm religious, a true believer in my supreme God almighty .... but I'm not convinced that they're God's chosen people. All humans are God's people .... most humans are being misled by organized religion.

Most Jews are secular, agnostic or practicing atheists. That's a fact. I know many. Some still practice some traditions and holidays .... but they are, for the most part, critical thinkers that emphasize humanistic values ... I'll tip my hat to them for that.

I'd be willing to bet that way more than half of Israel are non-Orthadox, agnostic, non-believers of the strict interpretation of the Old Testament.

Two of my dearest friends are in the tribe. We've had this discussion many times over the decades.
Posted by andwesway
Zachary, LA
Member since Jun 2016
2839 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 1:31 pm to
Because people feel sorry for them.
Posted by yakster
Member since Mar 2021
3606 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 1:32 pm to
All people were guilty in killing Jesus. All the people standing at the gates of Herods court crying out “crucify him” made us all guilty. They were not all Jews.
Posted by SkiUtah420
Member since Jul 2023
1139 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 1:33 pm to
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They will always be gods chosen people - and not supporting them is a grave mistake . I don’t care what they do they have the right because of who they are.


The "Jews of today" aka followers of the Talmud are in no way related to the Jews who occupied Palestine and Judea in the Bible

To Clarify, the Church is the new Israel. The Church and its adherents are God's chosen people.

Since the Jews rejected Jesus, God has rejected the Jews
This post was edited on 8/17/25 at 1:47 pm
Posted by Harald Ekernson
Louisiana
Member since May 2025
384 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 1:44 pm to
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So how does 0.20 of one percent of the population account for a quarter of the Nobel prizes

Their IQ is nearly one standard deviation above the average for ethnic Northern Europeans. Only the smartest, craftiest, and sneakiest Jews survived over the last few millennia and they stuck together and didn’t dilute their bloodlines. They had to survive the exiles to Assyria and Babylon, the Greeks and Romans, the Muslim conquests, the inquisition, the Nat-sies, and so on, and it has made them resilient.

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Are Jews somehow speically blessed or cursed

They might be cursed. The Law (Torah) was a curse from Jesus-pre-incarnate on the Jews. Jesus himself was cursed.
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