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re: Are Democrats starting to realize they screwed up BAD by shutting down the government?
Posted on 1/20/18 at 12:02 pm to Bunyan
Posted on 1/20/18 at 12:02 pm to Bunyan
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Need 60 votes
R's have 51 people
How dense are you
He’s just a remorseless liar. The left is about results, and the truth does not matter.
They won’t even deny it.
Posted on 1/20/18 at 12:02 pm to austintigerdad
I see this a lot when we all know damn well anything less than 60 in the Senate is a dead heat.
Posted on 1/20/18 at 12:04 pm to GeorgeWest
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Graham-Durbin compromise
quote:
compromise
:indigomontoya:
Posted on 1/20/18 at 12:07 pm to udtiger
Any compromise bracketed by the values of Lindsey Graham on one end and Dick Durbin on the other does not capture the values of everyday americans.
Period.
Period.
Posted on 1/20/18 at 12:26 pm to Bunyan
With mid terms approaching, they just committed suicide
Posted on 1/20/18 at 12:37 pm to uway
quote:
They won’t even deny it.
shite...they revel in their dishonesty.
Obama - you can keep your doctor/plan
Reid - Romney hasn't paid taxes
Dems - collusion
Posted on 1/20/18 at 12:40 pm to Bunyan
did the DEM leadership really think that a purely emotional argument (it's morally wrong to make us choose between DACA and CHIP) would work, especially considering their RECORDED AND MEMORIALIZED stances against the GOP-led shutdowns in the Obama era?
the DEMs are truly scraping at the bottom of the barrel trying to spin this
the "the GOP controls everything" meme only works for the LCD because the GOP doesn't have a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate
the DEMs are also showing that they refuse to negotiate on major issues. they are the "party of government" and they're showing the very worst type of governance
the DEMs are truly scraping at the bottom of the barrel trying to spin this
the "the GOP controls everything" meme only works for the LCD because the GOP doesn't have a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate
the DEMs are also showing that they refuse to negotiate on major issues. they are the "party of government" and they're showing the very worst type of governance
Posted on 1/20/18 at 12:59 pm to Bunyan
I don't think Democrats realize how bad they screwed up for not supporting the popular tax reform bill.
Hell, they still don't realize how bad of a candidate Hillary was.
They don't really learn lessons.
Hell, they still don't realize how bad of a candidate Hillary was.
They don't really learn lessons.
This post was edited on 1/20/18 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 1/20/18 at 1:22 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
The only way I think it actually hurts them is if people realize that life generally goes on as is without any noticeable impact when the government shuts down since they are the bigger government party, as opposed to the not quite as big, but still big, government GOP.
it would be glorious if trump came out in his SOTU address and highlighted how the shutdown clearly proves we dont need all that massive government bureaucracy, and that now he will start immediate plans with the stated goal of eliminating over 60-70% of everything that was shut down and had no affect on the american people
the regressive filth would lose their minds and have no one to blame but themselves
trump seems to have completely co-opted the dims strategy of never letting a good crisis go to waste and use it to advance your agenda, only trump does it so much better then they ever could because trump does things to make our country better for it.
Posted on 1/20/18 at 1:30 pm to GeorgeWest
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Graham-Durbin compromise would have passed easily. Trump was for it before he was against it.
Was going down in the House. Yes, the Est-R's and Dem's would have passed it, but that would have put Republican backs against the wall. McCarthy and Cotton did the right thing convincing Trump to say no.
Posted on 1/20/18 at 1:56 pm to Bunyan
When the Graham-Durbin proposal was brought to Trump, he basically folded his arms. He din't even attempt a counter-proposal.
Trump had the Schumer-Shutdown nickname picked out 2 days before the deadline.
Trump wanted a shut down and he got it.
Trump had the Schumer-Shutdown nickname picked out 2 days before the deadline.
Trump wanted a shut down and he got it.
Posted on 1/20/18 at 2:02 pm to texridder
quote:frick them both with a cactus dildo.
Graham-Durbin
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