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re: Arab leaders silenced by leaked phone call. President demands deal or 'I will blow s*** up

Posted on 5/25/26 at 4:28 pm to
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/25/26 at 4:28 pm to
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Can’t say any of the above though without the MAGA cult doing a downvote brigade.


Of course!! It's bullshite!! Anyone watching Trump operate since being elected can plainly see that Trump does what he says. A person may not agree with how he accomplishes the task, but that's another topic.
Also, Trump has the monumental task of dealing with sooooooo many obstacles and considerations that we sitting behind our keyboards spewing our uninformed opinions can't understand.

If you voted for Trump, let him lead and stfu. If you didn't, it must suck to be y'all. Vote harder next time! Lol
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139185 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 4:34 pm to
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This makes sense from Israel's perspective, does not make much sense from ours.
But it does.
Middle East Peace makes TOTAL sense from our end.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23309 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 4:34 pm to
Have You Ever Heard of TRUTH SOCIAL?

Don't get me wrong but POTUS Trump is asking for a lot. I mean, the Arabs hate the Iranians. It goes way back to the Persians. These days they have fights with Shia vs. Sunni. Nothing has changed in the rivalry since 3,000 years or more. Now they just use different excuses. Islam is only 1300 years old. 700 AD. These tribals have been fighting for several thousand years before that.

My head spins like an owl trying to discern the modern rivalries.

This post was edited on 5/25/26 at 4:40 pm
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
7938 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 4:42 pm to
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Iran is in a strong position against the US strategically because they have significantly affected global oil markets.
no they haven’t. It barely broke 100 and it’s in the low 90s. The world has shown it has adjusted.

Dems in power, and pushing their green agenda had a more significant affect.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/25/26 at 4:51 pm to
I call BS on this leaked contents call. The article has its own meme.
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
4290 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 4:58 pm to
Can you tell me what strategic advances Iran has gained and what has the USA lost since the start of the war to make the claim that Iran is in a better position than the US?
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
4290 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 5:00 pm to
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He uses words to bully people into getting what he wants without actually doing anything.


So he just has to threaten and people listen? And why do people listen? Is it because he has followed through on threats previously?

You are such a retard that you prove your own point wrong in your argument.

Clown
Posted by mailman85
Kentucky
Member since Mar 2013
287 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 5:12 pm to
Is the bad guy Israel in that depiction?
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23309 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 5:16 pm to
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I call BS on this leaked contents call. The article has its own meme.



I know the Daily Tail can be hit or miss. But TRUTH SOCIAL certainly spells it out as well.
Posted by rltiger
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Member since Oct 2004
2457 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 5:21 pm to
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Nothing has changed in the rivalry since 3,000 years or more. Now they just use different excuses. Islam is only 1300 years old. 700 AD. These tribals have been fighting for several thousand years before that.
I don’t think it is that deep. They don’t hate the Greeks or Italians who were kicking their asses pre Islam, they hate the Iranians because they are an unstable group who don’t play well with others.

Trump is throwing all this stuff out there for negotiating pressure to help move this deal along. Besides Iran, it’s the Iraqis, Qatar and Kuwait that are suffering the most with the Strait closed. I think Kuwait may be the catalyst regarding the Lebanon part of the negotiations. They may threaten Iran they will joint the Abraham Accords if Iran doesn’t get in line to end this stalemate, removing the Israel/Lebanese front demand.
Posted by Tom288
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Member since Apr 2009
21462 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 5:23 pm to
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Anyone who thinks the United States is in a weaker position now and that Iran has us by the short hairs is delusional. Plain and simple.


Our express war aims for the initial strikes were regime change & eliminating Iran as a nuclear threat, no? If it was simply to kill the Supreme Leader only to continue dealing with the IRGC then that accomplishes nothing. The IRGC has proven that they're both willing and able to withstand an air campaign. The Iranian people are not adequately armed in order to take on the IRGC on the ground. They've also effectively closed the Strait and we've proven that we're either unwilling, or unable, to open it back up.

That means the US has a choice coming up and all of these stupid "deals" that continue to fail are being used solely to buy us time to move more forces to the region. Eventually we're going to have to either go in on the ground in order to eliminate the IRGC or we're going to be forced to sign a deal with members of the IRGC which, we all know, cannot be trusted. So, Iran currently has us backed into a position where we'll have to strike a deal with them, meaning they survive and continue to run Iran, or we have to launch a ground campaign which no one will support.

Tell me which part I'm wrong about. In other words, yes, Iran has us backed into a weak position. Trump was stupid enough to follow Bibi into this war. Both Vance & Rubio called Israel on their bullshite, but Trump decided to disregard the opinions of both his Vice President and Secretary of State and trust the Israeli PM instead for "some" reason.

You, and the administration, can say, "we've destroyed their navy and air force" until you're blue in the face, but that was never our initial strategic aim. It was to deal with the problem of them pursuing a nuclear weapon once and for all by removing the IRGC. Unless Trump is willing to launch a ground invasion the IRGC isn't going anywhere. We've also greatly damaged our diplomatic power on the international stage by repeatedly calling officials to meet only to airstrike them. We've proven that our word cannot be trusted. Whether or not that comes back to bite us in the future remains to be seen.

You know, disagreeing with this endeavor doesn't make one any less MAGA, any less Conservative, it doesn't even make one necessarily less of a Trump supporter. But people on this board equate any criticism of Trump or his decisions to being a damn leftist. This place is as bad as Reddit at times.
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/25/26 at 5:23 pm to
TACO
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
15465 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 5:25 pm to
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Iran is in a strong position against the US strategically


no they aren’t. Ask yourself this, who can afford to just sit with this stalemate for the foreseeable future? The one whose ports are blockaded or the one whose ports are open?
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