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Anyone notice how the GOPe pivoted to “legal” ballot harvesting?

Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:10 am
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30644 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:10 am
Just another ploy to placate us upset people.

Never mind fixing the few counties that are corrupt. (Because that’s all it would take) They are now focusing on ballot harvesting and ignoring the blatant cheating. It’s like a huge secret…you must not discuss cheating or Dominion, but this is ok. They want everything that happened in 2020 just to go away, and for us all to believe this will level the playing field.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12070 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:14 am to
From here forward it will be impossible for anyone to win without the support of the political party itself.

If the ruling class deem you unfit, they wont put the machine to work for you. Just another tool in the toolbelt to maintain their power
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12836 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:15 am to
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Just another ploy to placate us upset people.

Never mind fixing the few counties that are corrupt. (Because that’s all it would take) They are now focusing on ballot harvesting and ignoring the blatant cheating. It’s like a huge secret…you must not discuss cheating or Dominion, but this is ok. They want everything that happened in 2020 just to go away, and for us all to believe this will level the playing field.



I don't like it, but in states that it's legal, Republicans sure as hell have to play that game.
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:16 am to
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Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79121 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:18 am to
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I don't like it, but in states that it's legal, Republicans sure as hell have to play that game.


Hunnerd percent.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42596 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:21 am to
quote:

From here forward it will be impossible for anyone to win without the support of the political party itself.

If the ruling class deem you unfit, they wont put the machine to work for you. Just another tool in the toolbelt to maintain their power

bingo
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
4971 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:22 am to
If the legislatures in those states aren't going to outlaw it, then they have to harvest. I hate it and think it is disgusting because if you don't care enough to either go take an hour out of your day or can't even bother mailing a ballot in, you don't deserve to be voting and canceling out those votes of people that do care.
Much less the influence that said harvester may impose. If you can't electioneer at the polling place who is making sure it isn't happening on somebody's doorstep.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28117 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:22 am to
DeSantis advocated for this

Trump started to as well

Might as well not fight with one arm tied behind our back
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51614 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:24 am to
quote:

Just another ploy to placate us upset people.

Never mind fixing the few counties that are corrupt. (Because that’s all it would take) They are now focusing on ballot harvesting and ignoring the blatant cheating. It’s like a huge secret…you must not discuss cheating or Dominion, but this is ok. They want everything that happened in 2020 just to go away, and for us all to believe this will level the playing field.


There were/are people on this forum who called for conservatives to start doing this.

I'm not one of them. I would rather this cancer proliferate to the point of bringing the entire fricking system crashing down rather than bowing down and going along with it. To me, this is one of those issues where you are either a part of the problem (those who propone ballot harvesting, for any reason) or you are a part of the solution (standing completely against it).
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11184 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:29 am to
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If the ruling class deem you unfit, they wont put the machine to work for you. Just another tool in the toolbelt to maintain their power

2020 was a suicide pact between the GOPe, DNC, IC, MSM, “deep state” and special interests to remove a president who messed with all of their collective agendas.

The Republican led house isn’t going to uncover any election fraud because their own leadership was complicit.
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
9642 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:29 am to
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146789 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:29 am to
what I have had it with is they will send 500 lawyers for Youngkin. They will call out the fake FBI proud boys for Youngkin. They will send lawyers for whom THEY want to win.

Because THEY are the uniparty and pick a D for 8 and an R for 8.

So excuse me while I say enough.

So who's turn is it? A non uniparty members turn.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
3283 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:31 am to
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I don't like it, but in states that it's legal, Republicans sure as hell have to play that game.


The problem is that the population density of R voters is very low. It would take an enormous ground game to challenge the D machine, which can literally go to a single housing project, college campus, or urban area bar and get 100s of votes.
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12836 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:34 am to
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The problem is that the population density of R voters is very low. It would take an enormous ground game to challenge the D machine, which can literally go to a single housing project, college campus, or urban area bar and get 100s of votes.


Sure, but Republicans just can't sit back in states where it's legal and get lapped by Democrats
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:35 am to
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Never mind fixing the few counties that are corrupt. (Because that’s all it would take)
The marxist Democrats have declared they will be doing more FCKRY and nothing need to be fixed.

So even the depression that should start its arrival in Fall/Winter and last all 2024 is not going to prevent a travesty the size of

Baraq obama running a government "led" by
a pervert and a professional cumbucket - both morons, both criminals
Posted by TBPland
League City, TX
Member since Sep 2009
1402 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:40 am to
We need 225,000,000 votes
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17895 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:41 am to
quote:

I'm not one of them. I would rather this cancer proliferate to the point of bringing the entire fricking system crashing down rather than bowing down and going along with it. To me, this is one of those issues where you are either a part of the problem (those who propone ballot harvesting, for any reason) or you are a part of the solution (standing completely against it).

In principle I'm sort of there with you, but I'm not sure you crash the system by handing all power to the Left. We can refuse to harvest ballots and stand against the system, but it'll be a symbolic protest only because the winners of the game hold all the power - and why would they ever change the rules that benefit them?
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
11710 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:02 am to
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Just another ploy to placate us upset people.


Hell, the GOPe is in on it. How do you think Raffensperger won reelection when all conservatives and most republicans HATE him? Same goes for Kemp and all the defeat of almost all MAGA endorsed Georgia candidates.

It was f'ng rigged.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
9459 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:04 am to
Our elections are a farce. Have been for a long time. Remember Kennedy-Nixon in 1960? How about Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall?

Democrats have been cheating their fricking asses off forever.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30644 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:05 am to
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How can you fix the "few counties" unless you have political power over the state?


They were GOP (most still are) controlled in 2020. They did nothing. Turtle actually worked against the GOP candidates.

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In a state where they won't (AZ, PA, WI, MI), you have to do something else.


I fear expanding ballot harvesting with the likes of Turtle et al, will only cement the establishments control.
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