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Anyone know or read about "sovereign citizens?"

Posted on 5/20/18 at 3:31 pm
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 3:31 pm
I've seen the Article 4 free inhabitant video before, but I had no idea this is a movement.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 3:32 pm to
Great link for us uniformed about WTF you talking about bruh
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 3:33 pm to
It's one tactic used by tax protesters to claim they are exempt from income tax. Just another group of tinfoil hat wearing nuts.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 3:34 pm to
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Just another group of tinfoil hat wearing nuts.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 3:35 pm to
They've been around a while.

They don't subscribe to the social contract theory.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 3:36 pm to
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Great link for us uniformed about WTF you talking about bruh


I asked if anyone knows about it or had read about it, you clearly haven't, therefore the thread was not intended for you. This is intended to be a discussion, not a lecture.
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 3:37 pm to
They should all beware of P. Barnes.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 3:37 pm to
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They've been around a while.

They don't subscribe to the social contract theory.


All I see them doing is trying to get out of taxes and to get out of traffic stops. Seems very narrow. But you're right, very anti-Lockean.

I respect they acknowledge they get their rights from God, which is true, but their execution is wrong. We need police and some government. You can acknowledge God gives us our rights, while government protects them.
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 3:39 pm
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 3:39 pm to
I love watching them get their asses kicked.

"I'm an Article IV free inhabitant...these are your laws, you have to follow them" aaaannnnddddd WHAM! meet the baton bitch.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 3:40 pm to
I believe there was a poster on this board a few years back who was either claiming to be or advocating for sovereign citizen status.

I understand the sentiment, without agreeing with it, when viewing the current state of government and the underwhelming character of our elected officials.

Posted by Smart Post
Member since Feb 2018
3539 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 3:42 pm to
Google Joe Gray of Trinidad, Texas.

He never left his property for 10 or 15 years, but charges have since been dropped.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
21958 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 3:44 pm to
We call them incels now.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 3:46 pm to
Ask Wesley Snipes about them
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 3:48 pm to
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I asked if anyone knows about it or had read about it, you clearly haven't, therefore the thread was not intended for you. This is intended to be a discussion, not a lecture.



So the answer to your question is yes. There are people who know about or have read about sovereign citizens. How does answering that question advance a discussion?
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 4:09 pm to
Yeah that's probably the best example. But she claimed the Articles of Confederation where still in effect lol.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35480 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 4:13 pm to
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I love watching them get their asses kicked.

I was going to say that I only know about "sovereign citizens" from the hundreds of youtube videos where they get beaten and tazed while yelling "Help! I'm a sovereign citizen!". They always seem so surprised that the shite doesn't work.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17020 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 4:14 pm to
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Great link for us uniformed about WTF you talking about bruh



People who don't pay income taxes I believe it is. Claim its unconstitutional. There's a "movement" of them.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90598 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 4:57 pm to
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But she claimed the Articles of Confederation where still in effect lol.


The articles were never officially repealed fwiw
Posted by BACONisMEATcandy
Member since Dec 2007
46643 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 5:03 pm to
I’ve read that the Vegas Shooter was a sovereign citizen
Posted by Team Alpha Beast
Member since Mar 2016
743 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 5:14 pm to
Gavin Long was a sovereign citiizen and member of the Washitaw Nation.
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