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Anyone else told that they HAD to get a college degree growing up?
Posted on 2/15/18 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 2/15/18 at 7:34 pm
Just curious, especially from different age groups, if your parents/family/teachers basically told you that it was a "minimum wage" or "good job" and nothing in between. I know growing up *I* was told that.
Did that mentality end up being the largest downward trend of the trade job? Are we changing that narrative to the next generation of workers, or still telling them to go to college or earn $7.50 an hour?
Did that mentality end up being the largest downward trend of the trade job? Are we changing that narrative to the next generation of workers, or still telling them to go to college or earn $7.50 an hour?
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Posted on 2/15/18 at 7:38 pm to skrayper
Mom always told me I have to get a degree.
Grandaddy always told me a man has to have hand skills.
I got the degree and wish I'd have a vocational skill.
Grandaddy always told me a man has to have hand skills.
I got the degree and wish I'd have a vocational skill.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 7:43 pm to Bayou
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Mom always told me I have to get a degree.
Both of my parents told me that as well. Literally that if I didn't have a degree I would be poor.
Funny that I went into IT - so many of the jobs in my field are all about training, not college education.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 7:44 pm to skrayper
Yep. I was the first in my family ( my Dad was too busy running businesses) and it was an inevitability.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 7:45 pm to skrayper
I was. I had no idea how much tradesman made until I was a sophomore in college.
Granted, they also told me I would be the president some day, so I think it's safe to say quite a large amount of the advice I received as a kid was bunk.
ETA: If I ever somehow become President and this site still exists, I promise to bump this thread.
Granted, they also told me I would be the president some day, so I think it's safe to say quite a large amount of the advice I received as a kid was bunk.
ETA: If I ever somehow become President and this site still exists, I promise to bump this thread.
This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 8:41 pm
Posted on 2/15/18 at 7:48 pm to skrayper
Yes, and he was right. I have people in my family who think that because they make decent money after working at the same job for two decades, they're living proof that college is useless. These are people who still do hourly labor work for a living in their 40s and 50s. There's nothing wrong with that, but it's silly to act like they're above a college education, when their senior management is littered with MBAs.
They're wrong, obviously.
They're wrong, obviously.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 7:49 pm to kingbob
I wish I were a skilled trim carpenter with tools.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 7:53 pm to skrayper
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Did that mentality end up being the largest downward trend of the trade job?
I think the downward trend came from the decline of the manufacturing sector. Which left an economy where a college education was a lot more important.
Plus you can work with your brain longer than you can with your body.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 7:54 pm to kingbob
I was told all my life that I had to go to college[LSU] or I'd have no money. In fact, I was told to go to Law School or be a dentist or vetanarian. I did get a Degree and 1/2 an MBA. Two weeks after college graduation, I was offered a good job and took it, not college related.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 7:54 pm to skrayper
Yes I was told that. This was 25 years ago and most of the men I grew up around worked in the plants in some form or another and they were unsafe and dirty.
They told us all to not be stupid and work the way they did.
Much has changed though, especially over the last 10 years. And yes, many more need to be going through trade school these days. There is a shortage of pipe fitters, plumbers, welders, electricians, and instrument techs.
They told us all to not be stupid and work the way they did.
Much has changed though, especially over the last 10 years. And yes, many more need to be going through trade school these days. There is a shortage of pipe fitters, plumbers, welders, electricians, and instrument techs.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 8:06 pm to notiger1997
I wasn’t told that. I was encouraged and went but didn’t get my degree.
My son was told he had to. He’s 29 and has a degree in economics. He’s a contractor with Lowery and works for Exxon. He wouldn’t have gotten the job without the degree.
My son was told he had to. He’s 29 and has a degree in economics. He’s a contractor with Lowery and works for Exxon. He wouldn’t have gotten the job without the degree.
This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 8:07 pm
Posted on 2/15/18 at 8:09 pm to skrayper
I don't really remember it, just as I don't remember being told to do well in school.
It was just expected that you'd do well and go to college (and do well). Didn't need to be discussed.
It was just expected that you'd do well and go to college (and do well). Didn't need to be discussed.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 8:27 pm to skrayper
Absolutely. Had to at least get an undergrad. Passed the same message to my children.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 8:31 pm to skrayper
Yeah. And it's the best advice I ever received. frick working outside all day.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 8:36 pm to skrayper
My dad didn’t want me to go to college. He wanted me to learn a trade instead.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 8:37 pm to Bayou
I am blessed with both.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 8:37 pm to JakeRStephenes
Yep
I've had many businesses and the survival of those businesses often had to do with my business degree
Didn't realize it though until I'd been out of college 10-15 years with no bankruptcies though
Social degrees have always been crap though and are worse than crap today with all the SJW professors
My niece was ruined. Graduated in December and she went from a solid kid to an airhead wanting some worthless social worker job that'll never take her anywhere. Nobody will hire her for what she wants. Wasted college money with her
I've had many businesses and the survival of those businesses often had to do with my business degree
Didn't realize it though until I'd been out of college 10-15 years with no bankruptcies though
Social degrees have always been crap though and are worse than crap today with all the SJW professors
My niece was ruined. Graduated in December and she went from a solid kid to an airhead wanting some worthless social worker job that'll never take her anywhere. Nobody will hire her for what she wants. Wasted college money with her
Posted on 2/15/18 at 8:38 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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think the downward trend came from the decline of the manufacturing sector
Making abig leap between a manufacturering and a skilled crafsmen/ labor job.
Days are pretty much LONG gone where you could get a low skilled manufacturing/labor job that paid you a relatively good wage (UAW,Longshoreman)and it's a good thing BTW...makes for a lazy and entitled workforce with low skills.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 8:41 pm to skrayper
It was always just presented as what you do
Posted on 2/15/18 at 8:44 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Yes, and he was right. I have people in my family who think that because they make decent money after working at the same job for two decades, they're living proof that college is useless. These are people who still do hourly labor work for a living in their 40s and 50s. There's nothing wrong with that, but it's silly to act like they're above a college education, when their senior management is littered with MBAs
This is a separate discussion
There's a difference between just A degree and USEFUL degrees.
Upper management isn't littered with gender studies, art or general studies degrees
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