- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Anyone else becoming more Libertarian?
Posted on 7/1/20 at 5:50 pm to OldHickory
Posted on 7/1/20 at 5:50 pm to OldHickory
quote:
So you’re for open borders?
Borders with no welfare state.
1
Posted on 7/1/20 at 5:50 pm to red sox fan 13
quote:
If you’re a real libertarian you have to take the good with the bad. So that includes abortion, freedom of religion, gay marriage, legalization of drugs, open borders, outsourcing labor and whatever else
A "real" libertarian is someone who wishes to make no imposition one way or another of such laws on a national level, but is quite content to let localities decide just exactly kind of laws they want to have in place.
Posted on 7/1/20 at 5:51 pm to LSUZombie
Welcome aboard. 
Anyone ever notice that nearly all of the angst in society is in the areas where government has the most control?
This isn't a coincidence.
"As long as it is admitted that the law may be diverted from its true purpose — that it may violate property instead of protecting it — then everyone will want to participate in making the law, either to protect himself against plunder or to use it for plunder. Political questions will always be prejudicial, dominant, and all-absorbing. There will be fighting at the door of the Legislative Palace, and the struggle within will be no less furious."- Frederic Batiat, OG libertarian
Anyone ever notice that nearly all of the angst in society is in the areas where government has the most control?
This isn't a coincidence.
"As long as it is admitted that the law may be diverted from its true purpose — that it may violate property instead of protecting it — then everyone will want to participate in making the law, either to protect himself against plunder or to use it for plunder. Political questions will always be prejudicial, dominant, and all-absorbing. There will be fighting at the door of the Legislative Palace, and the struggle within will be no less furious."- Frederic Batiat, OG libertarian
Posted on 7/1/20 at 5:52 pm to stuntman
quote:
Anyone ever notice that nearly all of the angst in society is in the areas where government has the most control?
Those are the areas that are most expensive. Healthcare, Housing, College, Construction...
Posted on 7/1/20 at 5:52 pm to LSUZombie
No, I’m becoming more anti-Marxist, and I’m voting for Trump
Posted on 7/1/20 at 5:53 pm to red sox fan 13
quote:
So that includes abortion
Abortion is one of the most hotly contested issues among "real" libertarians. I'm not sure why people think that's a settled issue for us.
Posted on 7/1/20 at 5:53 pm to AtlantaLSUfan
quote:
Trump seems more libertarian than he does Republican.
Dude loves signing spending bills. He's Republican AF.
Posted on 7/1/20 at 5:53 pm to lsu13lsu
Nope, but that’s not what the media would have you believe. My point is though there are a lot of people who say they are libertarian, and then want to turn around and ban a bunch of shite. Not how it works.
Posted on 7/1/20 at 5:54 pm to lsu13lsu
quote:
Those are the areas that are most expensive. Healthcare, Housing, College, Construction...
That too. Politicians are experts at destroying market signals.
Posted on 7/1/20 at 5:55 pm to Joshjrn
quote:
Abortion is one of the most hotly contested issues among "real" libertarians. I'm not sure why people think that's a settled issue for us.
There's been quite a cultural divide that's happened in the past decade or so, too. Eventually I imagine we will start using different terminology.
Posted on 7/1/20 at 5:56 pm to Joshjrn
I’m not a libertarian so I wouldn’t really know. I am pro life but I think if you want to maximize personal freedom, abortion should be legal.
Posted on 7/1/20 at 5:57 pm to Kafka
Seriously, I’m on a break from work right now; can you go be me cliffs?
Posted on 7/1/20 at 5:58 pm to OldHickory
quote:
So you’re for open borders?
No one has provided me with a libertarian definition of open boarders, yet.
My libertarian friends and I are OK with the approximate 1M visas issued to enter the USA legally a year. We are not OK with illegal immigration.
Is that not the libertarian perspective on open boarders? My libertarian meetings might be on a different day.
Posted on 7/1/20 at 5:58 pm to LurkerTooLong
quote:
Seriously, I’m on a break from work right now; can you go be me cliffs?
Those are the cliffs.
Posted on 7/1/20 at 5:58 pm to LSUZombie
I was a libertarian for like a year out of high school.
Then I grew up.
It's the most childish ideology there is. It's also super common in college-aged people where they are experiencing their first years 'on their own,' yet still financially tethered to their parents.
Then I grew up.
It's the most childish ideology there is. It's also super common in college-aged people where they are experiencing their first years 'on their own,' yet still financially tethered to their parents.
Posted on 7/1/20 at 5:59 pm to red sox fan 13
quote:
am pro life but I think if you want to maximize personal freedom, abortion should be legal.
I dont think you understand maximizing personal freedom.
How old are you?
Posted on 7/1/20 at 6:00 pm to AlonsoWDC
quote:
It's the most childish ideology there is. It's also super common in college-aged people where they are experiencing their first years 'on their own,' yet still financially tethered to their parents.
Hilarious.
What's childlike is having religious like faith in politicians to "fix problems". How many more failures of government do you need before you realize this?
Posted on 7/1/20 at 6:00 pm to HempHead
quote:
There's been quite a cultural divide that's happened in the past decade or so, too. Eventually I imagine we will start using different terminology.
Meh, most of the fights are over where we start the argument. Take abortion for example.
If you believe the fetus is a full person with all the rights of full personhood, then you're probably pro-life. If you believe the fetus isn't a full person with all the rights of full personhood, then you're probably pro-choice.
Which is why I think both sides of the "murder is wrong/women control their bodies" debate are dishonest morons. Both beg the question.
And on that note, the more time has gone on, the more I like Walter Block's evictionist position.
Posted on 7/1/20 at 6:01 pm to LSUZombie
I've leaned pretty libertarian for 20 years but I don't typically support the Libertarian party candidates. A few of their ideas are a bit out there for me. I align pretty closely with someone like Rand Paul politically.
Posted on 7/1/20 at 6:01 pm to LSUZombie
Absolutely not and poli board
Page 2 of 10
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News