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re: Anyone considering abandoning ship on the abortion issue should watch this video

Posted on 11/8/23 at 6:55 pm to
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 6:55 pm to
It’s really creepy that adult men are this obsessed with abortion. I
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 6:55 pm to
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religious views


Then why do we punish murderers? I mean killing is only wrong because some deity says so.

Why have anything except complete anarchy?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52945 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 6:56 pm to
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you want to live in a theocracy, why don’t you move to the Middle East?


If you don’t want to live in a country founded on Judea-Christian principles, why don’t you move?
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46505 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 6:58 pm to
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It’s really creepy that adult men are this obsessed with abortion. I



Why? Every conception requires the involvement of a man and in many cases they have no say when their child is killed.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
8926 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 6:59 pm to
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Then why do we punish murderers?


An atheist has never made a well reasoned argument why anything is immoral or even should be illegal for that matter.

Why isn't murder legal, from an atheist perspective?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50097 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 7:01 pm to
So burger bearcat, since you are so strong on abortion why do support Trump? He's made it very clear he does not, and will not, support an abortion ban.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162266 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 7:03 pm to
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Why? Every conception requires the involvement of a man and in many cases they have no say when their child is killed.



There are a lot of things that come with being a man that aren't fair in society. Same for women. You just have to accept that and move on with your life. And this is coming from a dude that had a pregnancy terminated without my knowledge or consent. I didn't find out after the fact. Was I pissed? Of course. Did I dump the woman and immediately move on with my life? Yes.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
30077 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 7:06 pm to
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Abortion is nobody's business and religion is all about money. You can not impose your religious views on others and that is why we are in America. Republicans are stupid if they insist on it.


Killing an unborn child is murder in every state. If you kill a pregnant woman you will be charged twice. Why do we give an exception to matricide?
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
10161 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 7:07 pm to
No ship to abandon. We won already.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
8926 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 7:07 pm to
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So burger bearcat, since you are so strong on abortion why do support Trump? He's made it very clear he does not, and will not, support an abortion ban.


I support Trump over Biden, I think I made that clear.

Trump has no moral vision on this issue. He will become as pro-life or moderate on the issue as needed at any given time.

Ultimately, what I do know is he supports defunding federal funding. From there, it needs to be resolved at the state level and through education and a mass moral reawakening on it.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50435 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 7:08 pm to
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merica was founded on Christian principles. Don’t like it
what is Christian about modern America? There are homeless people everywhere, along with empty houses. We throw away more food than any other country while a significant number of our citizens have nothing to eat.

Don’t feign Christianity now.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37744 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 7:09 pm to
Trump knows abortion is a loser issue. He doesn’t give a frick either and only pretends to placate the rubes who support him like the OP.

I put the over-under on the number of abortions Trump paid for on some whore he knocked up in the 80’s at 3.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
8926 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 7:10 pm to
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There are homeless people everywhere


Thanks to Democrat policies and values

Posted by BigMob
Georgia
Member since Oct 2021
7625 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 7:12 pm to
Religion aside, if you can look at a mutilated baby from the womb and be ok with it, you’re one sick mother effer.
This post was edited on 11/8/23 at 7:19 pm
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
30077 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 7:12 pm to
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There are a lot of things that come with being a man that aren't fair in society. Same for women. You just have to accept that and move on with your life. And this is coming from a dude that had a pregnancy terminated without my knowledge or consent. I didn't find out after the fact. Was I pissed? Of course. Did I dump the woman and immediately move on with my life? Yes.


I find this level of detached compartmentalization fascinating. Are you on the spectrum?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50435 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 7:12 pm to
Is this what I say “I know you are but what am I”?

You can’t acknowledge societal failings without blaming the other team. Grow up. We’re all human and it’s all our responsibilities to help each other.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 7:17 pm to
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You can not impose your religious views on others and that is why we are in America.


I am opposed to abortion not because of my religious views but because it is murder. Even in atheistic societies such as the Soviet Union, Democratic People's Republic of Korea, and the People's Republic of China, murder was/is immoral and illegal.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162266 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 7:18 pm to
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I find this level of detached compartmentalization fascinating. Are you on the spectrum?

No

It was a long time ago. At the time I felt a lot more strongly about things. But at no point did I think legislation needed to be changed over it.

Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50435 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 7:18 pm to
I don’t understand how so many men can feign caring about unborn babies while also mocking and spewing vitriol at so many people who were once unborn babies but now survive outside the womb. It’s so disingenuous and transparent.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 7:21 pm to
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I don’t understand how so many men can feign caring about unborn babies while also mocking and spewing vitriol at so many people who were once unborn babies but now survive outside the womb.


Perhaps it's because unborn babies are innocent and blameless while the rest of us are hateful, immoral, and sniveling cowards who are blessed to draw breath and take it for granted?
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