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re: Anna Paulina switches vote to "NO"
Posted on 12/18/24 at 5:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 12/18/24 at 5:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If Luna genuinely re-evaluated her decision after receiving significant feedback (from constituents or otherwise) and believed that reversing her stance better aligned with her values or the will of her district, it could be framed as a change of heart.
quote:Ok so this is where myself and ChatGPT are.
On the other hand, if her reversal came mainly in response to national pressure or online backlash rather than genuine input from constituents, it might be viewed as spineless or indicative of succumbing to outside forces.
quote:
spineless
And here is you.
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Posted on 12/18/24 at 5:27 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:
And here is you.
quote:
if her reversal came mainly in response to national pressure or online backlash
That is me, in large part.
Posted on 12/18/24 at 5:34 pm to lake chuck fan
Posted on 12/18/24 at 5:39 pm to Westbank111
quote:
i don’t think these people that truly had good intentions for this country, i don’t think they understand how to run DC!
It’s not “hey pass this bill because i can build that bridge in my town”, NO, that has to stop!
if any bill has BS i’m it, it gets thrown out, SIMPLE’
do not conform
do not bend
I don't disagree. I hope this bill fails, but if it doesn't..... I'm just saying all isn't lost. It's going to take time to turn things around.
It took decades to get to this point.
Posted on 12/18/24 at 5:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:SFP, this is not accurate.
She claims to have done this with both stances today
Her first post and decision was on behalf of them. She then listened to them(per her or you or idfk) before changing her vote.
She did not claim she listened to them as her reasoning for getting them the money they want. In fact, she was not happy about what she would have to do to get it to them.
Now, none of us know her heart or if she actually cares about doing the right thing. I’m not defending either of her decisions or how they came about.
But I know your response was horseshite. And I’m pretty sure Taxing Authority has zero intuition.
Posted on 12/18/24 at 5:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Did MAGA cause this flip flopper to ultimately choose the outcome you and I were hoping for?
This thread is about a MAGA member flip flopping (twice, technically) on the CR
Posted on 12/18/24 at 5:43 pm to lake chuck fan
Not guilty. As innocent as it gets.
Posted on 12/18/24 at 5:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Can we not wait for it to happen before your little shitposts?
I'll think the one that's 95% bad that gets through (with Trump/MAGA support) will be bad, too.
Posted on 12/18/24 at 5:50 pm to lake chuck fan
So she is a loud mouth RINO that takes nice pictures with guns.
Posted on 12/18/24 at 5:50 pm to lake chuck fan
Jeffries is getting crushed on X. People are waking the fock up.
Posted on 12/18/24 at 5:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:We are happy she voted no. And in this particular case, there’s is at least a decent explanation of why she did it. You don’t need ridiculous logic to argue what she did was at least neutral.
If you're happy that Luna showed she will change with the wind, I hope you are critical of her when she approves the future CR that's at least 95% as bad.
We have admonished her first decision, and wiped our brow after the 2nd. And got a no vote. We are still in position to be intellectually honest in our breakdown of what she did and her next decision on the vote.
You lost that position after your first post and with your logic to support it.
Posted on 12/18/24 at 5:59 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Maybe we come up short of changing the government.
I agree with you, but populism is not going to change government, it will just change a few people in government.
Maybe we change it a little.
Maybe a lot.
I’m willing to give this group a chance. And I’m pretty sure they’ll do alright in getting folks to side eye everything politicians do. And idk about you, but nearly every single person I know is more willing to consider and even vote AGAINST the left.
That’s what I want. The current political left is a disgrace and everyone I know sees it more now than ever. Many of these people could not even fathom this being true 8 years ago.
I think the populism is good for the United States right now.
Posted on 12/18/24 at 6:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
this thread proves exactly what I’ve accused you of before. You don’t care about government spending, you only want to troll/jab at conservatives or members of this board.
admit it.
admit it.
Posted on 12/18/24 at 6:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
That is me, in large part.
quote:1. Why are we gatekeeping the way in which she received the communication? The disdain she received wasn’t in person so it holds no weight?
if her reversal came mainly in response to national pressure or online backlash
You do this a lot. I don’t know a term for it. There is probably one in your handbook.
To start: She’s thinking about and helping her constituents(good), by making an overall poor decision(bad).
Finish: She’s forgoing the direct assistance to her constituents(bad?), and making an overall positive decision(good).
Now, I’d argue it’s a bit of a nuanced situation and at the end of the day, we got a great outcome and neutral process to get there.
You, instead of even attempting to discuss the nuances or give them ANY credence, chose you bust in and throw water balloons at us because one of our MAGA politicians let us in on what she was thinking while making the good decision.
Which is fine, you just vehemently disagree that you do that…constantly.
Posted on 12/18/24 at 6:16 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Maybe we change it a little.
Populist movements end up in places far from where they start because its directionless.
I'm just worried it gets changed for the worse, and not the better.
Posted on 12/18/24 at 6:24 pm to RogerTheShrubber
What typically gets populism to ramp up? And what are the typical conclusions it brings for the country feverishly pushing it?
Posted on 12/18/24 at 6:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If you're happy that Luna showed she will change with the wind,
Did you ever ponder that after her first “yes” post that she might have received a call from the governor of Florida assuring her that her constituents are being taken care of by the State of Florida and that if she feels uncomfortable voting for the CR, because she did in fact state that she wanted a “clean” bill, that she should vote NO as she originally planned? Hence the 2 hour change.
Posted on 12/18/24 at 6:36 pm to ReauxlTide222
A disaffected working class.
It will probably grow and morph as the floor keeps getting lifted higher in this country and most dont have the ability to pivot as quickly as the economy changes.
There is nothing wrong with righteous anger, but populist mobs usually shift far left.
It will probably grow and morph as the floor keeps getting lifted higher in this country and most dont have the ability to pivot as quickly as the economy changes.
There is nothing wrong with righteous anger, but populist mobs usually shift far left.
Posted on 12/18/24 at 6:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
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She came out with her position, and then showed she had no spine to support that position.
She supported it because of FEMA aid to her region.
Perhaps after her public statement she received feedback from constituents to she should vote no regardless of the benefit to her district so she changed her vote, as she should.
The problem with your line of thinking is politicians should stand for what they think is best. Reality is they should just vote how their constituents want them vote, regardless of what they think is right. That’s why they’re called “representatives”
Posted on 12/18/24 at 6:43 pm to lake chuck fan
This is how you do it Anna,
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