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re: Angola Inmates File Lawsuit Over "Dangerous" Conditions

Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:54 am to
Posted by Fred's a tiger
Mamou
Member since Dec 2012
119 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:54 am to
Do you actually think that they get no break time or water while working in the heat? Are you that gullible?
Oh and let's talk about HVAC people, plumbers and electricians who work in the same conditions every day and do so to earn a living, rather than being involved in criminal activity.
Posted by Fred's a tiger
Mamou
Member since Dec 2012
119 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:56 am to
Points a rifle at them? Maybe they should be allowed to roam freely. But then when they were injured while escaping you would be on here complaining about the lack of supervision.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:57 am to
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so the only alternative to working the fields in 100+ degree heat is hanging out at a country club?


Yes
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20631 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 9:02 am to
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so the only alternative to working the fields in 100+ degree heat is hanging out at a country club?


Pretty sure I saw free construction workers working outside still.

Inmates too good to work?
Posted by BayouBengal21
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2019
711 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 9:09 am to
Newsflash idiot, I never espoused such ideas concerning “lack of AC.” Nor did I ever agree with whatever class action is currently pending from Angola prisoners.

I gave you caselaw when you assumed I couldn’t articulate what “inhumane conditions” were.

I posted case cites, as I’d hope you’d gain understanding and conduct some basic research. Clearly you did not.

As for your understanding of “deliberate indifference,” the case illustrated in the post dealt SOLEY concerning prison conditions. And, if you read the case, (which you didn’t possibly because of your inability to articulate the vernacular of legal scholars) you would see that this legal term points to the culpable mind of prison guards/personnel/wardens not some “googled mess” you posted to make yourself seem intelligent on Tiger Rant.

Your slighted sentence directed towards understanding case law is clearly directed towards one of us.

Give the internet a break, I assume your brain is hurting.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61385 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 9:27 am to
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let's talk about HVAC people, plumbers and electricians who work in the same conditions every day and do so to earn a living,


Do you believe inmates are earning a living?
Posted by Cromulent
Down the Bayou
Member since Oct 2016
3347 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 9:29 am to
That is their living. They’re in jail.
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
4592 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 9:30 am to
Or sit in a cinder-block cell the entire/most of the day. I think I’d like to get out and get some sunshine as well.
Posted by lsudirtbag
Prairieville
Member since Oct 2021
521 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 9:32 am to
Look this post went off the rails with personal crap.

I honestly dont give a crap about the rough conditions in jail or working outside. Screw their rights.....get to work doing what they say and no complaining.........YOURE IN JAIL.

You gave up your rights when you did what you did. Sorry if that is harsh.....but I'm not going to jail for a reason...its bad.
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
4239 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 10:08 am to
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What percentage of offenders in Angola have been convicted of violent crimes?


Likely the majority-

71% are serving life sentences.

The majority of life sentences in Louisiana result from murder and rape convictions.
Posted by mcpotiger
Missouri
Member since Mar 2005
9079 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 10:12 am to
"For little or No Pay"??? WTF..
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
24227 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 10:15 am to
quote:

Class action lawsuit over working in the fields during the heat wave


Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28576 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 10:21 am to
quote:

Do you actually think that they get no break time or water while working in the heat? Are you that gullible?
Oh and let's talk about HVAC people, plumbers and electricians who work in the same conditions every day and do so to earn a living, rather than being involved in criminal activity.

No, I'm not gullible at all. I haven't read the lawsuit and don't know what is being alleged as unsafe conditions in the heat. I simply suggested that inmates working in the heat have a right to minimum safety practices, just as every other human working in the heat.

Why you so mad?
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17135 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 10:27 am to
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Look I’m pretty conservative from a sentencing standpoint, but working guys in conditions where they are likely to pass out from the heat seems pretty inhumane to me.



What about people who work in those environments willingly? Or is your problem with the state forcing inmates to work.

I personally think that work should be mandatory. Even if it involves one inmate digging a deep hole and another inmate filling it in.

Give prisoners the Sisyphus treatment:
quote:

Hades punished him for cheating death twice by forcing him to roll an immense boulder up a hill only for it to roll back down every time it neared the top, repeating this action for eternity.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17135 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 10:28 am to
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Not at all. I know plenty of people who spent decades in Angola. But I’m sure you know better than they do.




They can either work or they can enjoy the food loaf at Camp J.
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
Member since Jul 2017
9607 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 9:07 am to
I know of some cold blooded killers that have been released from Angola

The one I helped convict was released recently after about 40 years. We convicted him of 2nd degree murder. Life with no parole. The law changed and they let him out a few months ago. Hiss accomplice were released earlier.


RIP Rick Whitener. We tried our best for you.
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