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re: Amateur YouTube Video - What Happened in Denver

Posted on 10/13/20 at 5:25 am to
Posted by bbeck
Member since Dec 2011
14560 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 5:25 am to
All of these people need to get a damn job or a hobby
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14947 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 6:06 am to
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L or somebitchiknow does quality research.


It's really a sad commentary on our media- now apparently coordinating with agitators and killing "hateful" Trump supporters during efforts to make Trump supporters look hateful- that we have to rely on internet sleuths for true investigative journalism.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123896 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 6:37 am to
Here is the BGM POS, Jacob Kelly agitating the wrong pro-Biden dude during a Bernie Sanders rally last Feb

LINK
Posted by AGreySlate
South Carolina
Member since Jun 2018
846 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 6:57 am to
This situation is a great microcosm of what’s being done on a larger scale TO patriotic Americans day in and day out.

-Media works hand in hand with destructive leftists.
-Media and leftists use our founding principles of freedom of speech, and importance of “journalism” against us by creating false narratives and lies as propaganda.
-Media and leftists instigate (or outright stage) hatred and violent events.
-Media and leftists poke, prod, and provoke the rational people our fine nation until someone has had a bad enough day to react.
-Media highlights and plays on repeat whatever hateful narrative they had prepared for that instance (in this case “bad, far-right, hateful white supremacists”) to try and make it real to the people of this nation.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:02 am to
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BGM is shouting (paraphrase) “A white supremacist is dead. Shot him right in the head.”

Why would he be saying something like that?
Because he is an a-hole?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39451 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:04 am to
Hmmm. So they show up with “security” then follow around an instigator at a Trump event hoping for a “big story”.

They were trying to create news, not report news.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:04 am to
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9News producer was arrested.

Will be interesting to follow this as facts come out.
HIS video will be interesting.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:06 am to
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Disappointed that Hank has not weighed in. Hopefully he has something to say tomorrow about this supposedly “random” turn of events from an individual with “no affirmative ill-intent” demonstrated.
Were the reporter and Dolloff tailing BGM in hopes of getting juicy footage? No doubt.

That is a great big long way from the narrative that they set out to kill some “patriot.”
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39451 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:12 am to
Wgaf if it’s premeditated? Lol. That was an execution plain and simple.

You don’t get to shoot someone because you got bitch slapped.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:15 am to
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They got his attention somehow, because the victim walked away from the agitator directly to the shooter. No telling how they baited him over.
It seems obvious that the reporter shouted a question at Keltner and that Keltner took offense. Dolloff stepped between them to prevent a physical altercation.

Was the reporter provocative or offensive, justifying Keltner’s reaction? Maybe. I suspect that the reporter’s own video will eventually answer that question.

At the same time, it appears that Keltner himself may have been a bit of a hothead. Look at the BGM footage. BGM was a loudmouth arse, but it was Keltner who initiated physical contact between the two ... chest-bumping BGM.
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:33 am to
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Because he is an a-hole?


You left out: with an agenda.

Why would you leave out an important aspect like that?

ETA: this is not to say the agenda was murder. It is to say the agenda was to incite violence. That is also a target rich environment. His actions are hard to defend.

Let's see your argument against that.
This post was edited on 10/13/20 at 7:37 am
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:40 am to
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When larping becomes murder


What at first seems like a throwaway post is much deeper than that: We have a whole generation of people who aren't being raised in the real world.

These idiots LIVES are basically a simulation of constant stimulation.

Nothing about them is grounded in reality, so you get this.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140394 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:51 am to
A trained security detail should have removed his charge from the scene and there was ample opportunity to do so.

He did not. He failed and killed someone that didn’t need to die. Pulling his weapon in that scenario created more danger for the pussy producer as more guns could have been pulled.

He then shot a guy backing away from him.
This post was edited on 10/13/20 at 7:54 am
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:57 am to
Here is a video of an actual trained security detail, not an ANTIFA larper/agitator

LINK
This post was edited on 10/13/20 at 7:58 am
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:58 am to
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No affirmative malice


Yep, that's a doozy right there!
Posted by ConservativeBamaFan
Tuscaloosa Alabama
Member since Nov 2013
1247 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 8:43 am to
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Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34907 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 8:45 am to
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9News is neck deep in this.



Yep, the Victim's Family will own that Station.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57223 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 8:53 am to
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the girl in the orange PRESS vest is that Helen chick (Producer).
Are you sure? TV Producers don't typically carry still photo cameras. That would be very odd.

EDIT: Thanks 808Bass
quote:

No. Helen works for the Denver Post (same parent company as 9News). The producer is the guy in the blue shirt in all the still photos of the shooting.



You dudes in this thread are doing a better job than anyone in the "press".
This post was edited on 10/13/20 at 8:55 am
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57223 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 8:58 am to
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It's really a sad commentary on our media- now apparently coordinating with agitators and killing "hateful" Trump supporters during efforts to make Trump supporters look hateful-
Been going on a long time. In the early 90s several news people got busted in the ME choreographing palestinian "protests". Used to be a fireable offense. Now that are considered "heroes" for advancing The Narrative™?.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57223 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 9:03 am to
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Were the reporter and Dolloff tailing BGM in hopes of getting juicy footage? No doubt.

That is a great big long way from the narrative that they set out to kill some “patriot.”
You're an idiot. The presence of a camera drastically changes people's behavior. Photojournalism 101.
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