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re: All of our "allies" deny Trumps request for help

Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:18 am to
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31513 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:18 am to
Wait trump told us everyone was coming to help the US out?
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:18 am to
You read as part of the overall problem.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
29918 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:19 am to


We can still do it alone dumbass. It is just going to take longer and make their gas higher.

Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
29918 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:20 am to
I dont care what you think the problem is
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:21 am to
Of course you don’t. Never intended to change your mind.

Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:22 am to
Seriously, the midterms are toast.

The Dems will gain the house…..and that’s just the beginning.
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
4570 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:23 am to
so trump told kier starmer thanks but no thanks and now he is pissed because they aren't sending anything? trump needs to get off social media while he is prosecuting a war.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157679 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:25 am to
You should be happy you freaks are going to take over.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
50737 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:25 am to
Are the "Board of Peace " members helping out?
Posted by Slingscode
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
2257 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:26 am to
You can be assured China is watching this very closely
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167052 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:27 am to
Trump warned NATO in today's news.

With friends like this, who needs enemies?
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
29918 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:28 am to
I dont think he can unilaterally leave it can he?

It would need congress if im not mistaken. Other than to just threaten to not to comply with article 5
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31634 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:30 am to
quote:

Ukraine and the Iranian conflict are very different. We initiated this one……


We funded Ukraine is what he was saying.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31634 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:31 am to
quote:

I have an idea. Let Ukraine fight their own wars and let Israel fight their own wars.


That's not how it has ever worked.
This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 6:33 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476390 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:32 am to
quote:

Again, I don’t care,

They should be made to fight.

Why, exactly?

Not only is this our war, but we didn't include them in the decision-making and we've been pretty shitty to them the past year.

That all ignores if this is going to be another Iraq.

And NATO has nothing to do with this, and you know this. We started this war. Article 5 was not triggered
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
9859 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:32 am to
It’s indeed difficult to often and easily identify the continued benefits this “alliance” has provided to the U.S. in these post decades beyond its original Cold War purpose.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
29918 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:33 am to
Ok ill rephrase for you

They should not be made to fight

They should be made to hold Ukraine without any of our money or weapons. Which is going to end up making them fight.

Is that better?
Posted by GeauxZone90
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2010
3632 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:34 am to
No help from allies means Trump is going to initiate the draft. I hope your anus is peppered when your son or your arse is sent to Iran to die for Israel
This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 6:35 am
Posted by 94LSU
Member since May 2023
1121 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:36 am to
quote:

It’s indeed difficult to often and easily identify the continued benefits this “alliance” has provided to the U.S.
What happens when these countries are no longer forced to buy our debt?


You're about to learn that you need them more than they need you. Won't be long now.
This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 6:37 am
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
13198 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:37 am to
NATO is for Euro problems not Persian Gulf problems.

The reason we put our money and weapons into Ukraine is because it is beneficial to the United States. If Trump wanted that war over, it'd be over. Despite all his talk, my guess at this juncture is his view of the US strategic interest in supporting Ukraine is in alignment with the Washington consensus on the matter.

The fact that Europe is in alignment with that is mostly incidental to our interest. This was true before Trump and even truer today: the United States does not have allies, it only has interests. Right now, our interest in Iran is not in alignment with most our traditional allies' interests.

Furthermore, we've spent the last year and some change yanking them all around on the matter of trade. You can't call them allies when you browbeat them and lecture them any time we send a VIP over there. If we wanted a coalition of the willing situation, we probably needed to proceed with our other foreign policy/trade agenda far more carefully than it went.

So yeah, no shite, they aren't interested in helping the United States out in a broadly dumbass plan.
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