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All military personnel ordered NOT to wipe phone data

Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:10 pm
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:10 pm
What is this about? Does the military have absolutely NO right to privacy in communications, etc., especially if it's a personal phone?

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The Pentagon has issued a memo asking personnel not to delete data on their phones, calling it a “solemn responsibility and legal obligation” of all federal employees, both military and civilian.

In accordance with the Department of Defense (DoD) Instructions 5015.02 and 8170.01, personnel must retain text messages that are qualified as records as per the Federal Records Act, the Aug. 3 memo issued by Deputy Defense Secretary Kathleen Hicks said. All mobile device service providers in the DoD are now required to capture and save data on “DoD-provisioned mobile devices” once users turn them on. This order is “effective immediately.”

“Under the Federal Records Act, a record is recorded information that is made or received in connection with the transaction of public business that is preserved or appropriate for preservation by an agency,” the memo stated.

“This information provides evidence of government organization, functions, policies, decisions, procedures, operations, or other official activities, or is of value to the Department.”

The DoD Chief Information Officer (CIO) is working with the Secretaries of the Military Departments and other Component heads to ensure that the guidance is implemented in the Pentagon.

The memo also instructed the DoD General Counsel and the DoD CIO to assess the defense department’s policies and procedures ensuring compliance with the Federal Records Act. They are tasked with reporting back to Hicks with any recommendations within 30 days.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:12 pm to
That is laughable....none of their busienss.
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:12 pm to
Shlouda told Hillary
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:12 pm to
So glad I am retired...
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:12 pm to
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All military personnel ordered NOT to wipe phone data


Like, with a cloth?
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71238 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:12 pm to
UCMJ is a catch all. Do what you’re told or suffer.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27061 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:13 pm to
If you are going to use a government phone, you should not expect privacy on that phone... The way I read this it does not apply to privately owned/personal cell phones...
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27483 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:15 pm to
To be fair, there are qualifying statements. I don't see anything that says "every baw in the military has to keep all their texts on their personal devices".

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personnel must retain text messages that are qualified as records as per the Federal Records Act


As a citizen, that sounds fine to me.

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All mobile device service providers in the DoD are now required to capture and save data on “DoD-provisioned mobile devices” once users turn them on


again, on DOD provisioned devices. It doesn't say anything about personal devices.

Look, I am a typical toxic white male who fricking LOVEs to rage over shite, but this ain't it.
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 1:16 pm
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
23979 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:16 pm to
This sounds like it’s on their government issued phones, not their personals. Probably some of the oversight we want.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
12008 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:16 pm to
Not 'raging,' just asking. You can't keep too close of an eye on this pathetic excuse of an administration.

P.S. So, do military people routinely have at least 2 phones, one personal and one 'business?' That must get confusing.
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 1:18 pm
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
4909 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:20 pm to
this is only for DOD issued phone NOT PERSONAL PHONES.

This has been standard practice for a long time.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

do military people routinely have at least 2 phones, one personal and one 'business?'


Rank and file don't have such. Brass usually do.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
12008 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:22 pm to
Great, thanks!
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:22 pm to
You better hope that you are not reinstated for prosecution purposes
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21856 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

personnel must retain text messages that are qualified as records as per the Federal Records Act
quote:

All mobile device service providers in the DoD are now required to capture and save data on “DoD-provisioned mobile devices” once users turn them on
quote:


“Under the Federal Records Act, a record is recorded information that is made or received in connection with the transaction of public business that is preserved or appropriate for preservation by an agency,” the memo stated.

None of this sounds like an invasion of privacy to me. Sounds like its just with Dept of Defense issued phones and data related to their service duties.

Sounds like good policy to me to prohibit government officials from deleting data off their government issued phones or related to their work duties.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27061 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

P.S. So, do military people routinely have at least 2 phones, one personal and one 'business?' That must get confusing.



Most do... If they are issued a DoD phone then they are supposed to utilize that phone for DoD business... It really is not confusing but it is a hassle and many will utilize their personal phones for DoD business as well... However, in doing so they open up their personal phone being pulled in when they do...
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
12865 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:22 pm to
This is for military phones, devices, equipment.
ETA: This has been standard policy for a long time. Technically, none of us assume any privacy using NMCI equipment or any other DoD given items. It tells me this every time I reboot my machine or any time I log in to anything.
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 1:26 pm
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
12008 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:23 pm to
Got it, thanks!
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
29906 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:23 pm to
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All military personnel ordered NOT to wipe phone data

What is this about?


anyone who says a word negative about this administration or anyone in it will soon be brought up on charges and put in jail for it, that is what this means.
Posted by McChowder
Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
5218 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:26 pm to
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that are qualified as records as per the Federal Records Act

It basically says that if you choose to perform your duty/job on your personal device, you must retain those records in accordance with existing laws.
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