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Alexander Smirnov charged with making false statements to the FBI about the Bidens

Posted on 2/16/24 at 4:47 pm
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 2/16/24 at 4:47 pm
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Charging documents released on Thursday show Smirnov was a confidential source for the FBI and allegedly provided "false derogatory information about [President Biden] and [Hunter Biden] ... in 2020, after [Biden] became a presidential candidate." Smirnov is the same person that Republicans have called "a highly credible FBI source" and have used to claim Joe Biden is corrupt, according to multiple senior congressional sources.


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Smirnov allegedly reported to an FBI agent in March 2017 that he had a phone call with the owner of Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company, and noted Hunter Biden was at the time a member of Burisma's board. Three years later, Smirnov allegedly made false statements in describing two meetings in 2015 or 2016 in which executives associated with Burisma told him they had hired Hunter Biden to "protect us, through his dad, from all kinds of problems."



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According to federal authorities, Smirnov further said the executives paid $5 million each to Hunter Biden and Joe Biden while the latter was in office as vice president, so that Hunter Biden "will take care of all those issues through his dad," referring to the then-criminal investigation being conducted by the then-Ukrainian prosecutor general into Burisma.


ABC
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 2/16/24 at 4:48 pm to
Oh my gosh
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 2/16/24 at 4:49 pm to
Again?
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 2/16/24 at 4:49 pm to
We're not voting our way out of this.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 2/16/24 at 4:55 pm to

Going against the official narrative is ILLEGAL!!




Posted by Torqued Pork
Malvern
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Posted on 2/16/24 at 5:00 pm to
American Civil War Part II is the only way out.
Posted by thermal9221
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Posted on 2/16/24 at 5:01 pm to
ABC
They’re good at political activism
Posted by Liberator
Ephesians 6:10-16
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Posted on 2/16/24 at 5:02 pm to
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We're not voting our way out of this.


Chilling proposition. Seems to be a toss up at best. Congress (GOP specifically) have been acting as though it's been business as usual -- whether 2017 or 2024.

Will anyone someone in the Chambers make the following challenge on the Floor: "DO WE OR DO WE NOT STILL HAVE A REPUBLIC?? DO WE HAVE A CONSTITUTION??" Maybe then we'll all know how to proceed.




Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6711 posts
Posted on 2/16/24 at 5:02 pm to
Still waiting for the left to explain how Biden is not weaponizing the DOJ against America
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
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Posted on 2/16/24 at 5:03 pm to
Timing is perfect
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 2/16/24 at 5:03 pm to
Any reply to that would simply be a lie. So why bother asking.

He's right, we aren't getting out of this the easy way.
Posted by theRealJesseD
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Posted on 2/16/24 at 5:03 pm to
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45049 posts
Posted on 2/16/24 at 5:03 pm to
quote:

We're not voting our way out of this.


Have faith.

If anyone made false statements about Trump I’m sure the FBI will get them.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19223 posts
Posted on 2/16/24 at 6:15 pm to
This indictment seems a lot like Hunter's laptop being Russian disinformation according to 50 top intelligence officers.

Of course, they charged Trump with what Hillary did, so there's that.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13196 posts
Posted on 2/16/24 at 6:26 pm to
He lied about Burisma paying them off, then "son of a bitch they fired him"....but the payoff didnt happen.

Makes sense to me
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23504 posts
Posted on 2/16/24 at 6:35 pm to
The Trump appointee brought this charge. Special counsel David Weiss Is the same guy who said that Hunter Biden’s defense was based on fiction.

If the lead guy, appointed as U.S. Attorney by Trump, brings the charge, it’s probably warranted.
This post was edited on 2/16/24 at 6:41 pm
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12768 posts
Posted on 2/16/24 at 6:39 pm to
quote:

This indictment seems a lot like Hunter's laptop being Russian disinformation according to 50 top intelligence officers. Of course, they charged Trump with what Hillary did, so there's that.


We’ll find out in a couple of years that the FBI set this guy up to provide false information on the Biden’s in order to taint any legitimate investigation into the Bidens.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 2/16/24 at 6:44 pm to
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As alleged in the indictment, the events that Smirnov first reported to the FBI Agent in June 2020 were fabrications.  In truth and fact, the defendant had contact with executives from Burisma in 2017, after the end of the administration when Public Official 1 had no ability to influence U.S. policy and after the Ukrainian Prosecutor General had been fired in February 2016. The indictment alleges that the defendant transformed his routine and unextraordinary business contacts with Burisma in 2017 and later into bribery allegations against Public Official 1 after expressing bias against Public Official 1 and his presidential candidacy.

As further alleged in the indictment, when he was interviewed by FBI agents in September 2023, Smirnov repeated some of his false claims, changed his story as to other of his claims, and promoted a new false narrative after he said he met with Russian officials.


Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 2/16/24 at 6:55 pm to
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Special counsel David Weiss Is the same guy who said that Hunter Biden’s defense was based on fiction.


You mean after he tried to plea bargain it away under the guise of a massively stepped down gun charge? After he tried to runout SOL on the charges?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123716 posts
Posted on 2/16/24 at 6:56 pm to
quote:

As alleged in the indictment, the events that Smirnov first reported to the FBI Agent in June 2020 were fabrications.  In truth and fact, the defendant had contact with executives from Burisma in 2017, after the end of the administration when Public Official 1 had no ability to influence U.S. policy and after the Ukrainian Prosecutor General had been fired in February 2016. The indictment alleges that the defendant transformed his routine and unextraordinary business contacts with Burisma in 2017 and later into bribery allegations against Public Official 1 after expressing bias against Public Official 1 and his presidential candidacy.

As further alleged in the indictment, when he was interviewed by FBI agents in September 2023, Smirnov repeated some of his false claims, changed his story as to other of his claims, and promoted a new false narrative after he said he met with Russian officials.

Are we talking about Christopher Steele here?
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