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re: Alabama votes to screw its residents at the gas pump.

Posted on 3/13/19 at 6:24 am to
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99655 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 6:24 am to
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Tried to get a prioritized list of infrastructure projects scheduled for renovation now that they've taxed us specifically for this. Have yet to hear back from my Senate District 34 representative who voted in favor


You frickers are so backwards.

Here in BR, you need to hire TWO project directors/coordinators before you can ever see an actual list. Sure, you hear about some general plans before, but the nitty gritty only comes after you create some new government positions.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 6:49 am to
quote:

Stop your bitching.



You shut your fricking cock holster.

They already robbed 63 million from the previous gas tax to prop up the court system



Posted by UnitedFruitCompany
Bay Area
Member since Nov 2018
3436 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 6:50 am to
Would it be possible to FOIA some of these road projects? Looking at the I-10 expansion boondoggle that lasted most of my teenage years in Nola. Would be interesting to compare similar projects across states. Given that they use federal dollars, I'm sure it's possible. Would be really interesting to see some documentation on these projects.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10988 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 6:50 am to
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Here in BR, you need to hire TWO project directors/coordinators before . . .


Sounds like here where it takes 8 to fill every pothole.

There'll be at least two stopping traffic (maybe more), two to shovel, two to supervise, one or two walking around (and couple more watching). Not saying the bridges and bad stuff doesn't need fixing but they could fix double the potholes with a third less looky-lou's.

Spent some time in Colorado and they put in twice the road (concrete) in the summer months they had to do it. You could notice progress by the week. . . we seem to just drag it out forever.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 7:17 am to
Did you hear or read that one of the possible objections in the Senate was going to be adding an amendment to change that pot holes could only be filled by asphalt?

We can't use MOTHERfrickING CONCRETE to fill holes.

Burn Montgomery the frick down.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42582 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 7:18 am to
We found the one DOT contractor. There is no reason to have new bridges to Selma. Raise your own taxes.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 7:22 am to
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. There is no reason to have new bridges to Selma.


You had a race based thread yesterday and now this.

Bridges are now racist, I bet you jerked off to the 59/20 on ramp shite.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42582 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 7:24 am to
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Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27348 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 7:27 am to
Rarely is it a revenue problem...

The only "good" part of this is counties will get money to maintain some local roads, which are coming apart... Roads tend to have a 10 to 15 year life depending on construction and traffic level...

According to the bill, the counties and the cities must have a plan for how the additional funds will be spent each year and I know on the local level they are restricted to actual road maintenance/construction (no salaries, equipment, etc)…

My issue is the money going toward the port of Mobile (which should be a self sustaining operation) and the 67% that goes to ALDOT - that is where the money is going to be wasted...
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19161 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 7:27 am to
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You had a race based thread yesterday and now this.

Bridges are now racist, I bet you jerked off to the 59/20 on ramp shite.


What does this mean?
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19161 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 7:30 am to
They can’t manage the money they have now. Taxing everyone at the pump won’t solve anything. They’ll piss it away and them raise taxes again.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26701 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 7:32 am to
Try NC. We pay $.35/gallon in STATE tax on top of the $.18 FED tax.

Thankfully I fill up regularly in SC and save $.20/gallon at least.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 7:36 am to
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What in the ever loving frick does Selma have to do with Bridges?

We'll go from here.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27348 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 7:39 am to
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They can’t manage the money they have now.


You will get no argument from me on the overall inability to manage money in the State of Alabama by elected officials but the gas tax dollars have always been pretty well controlled and regulated, especially on the local level...

The issue becomes there has not been a gas tax increase since 1992 - since those are the primary funds allocated to road construction and maintenance, how do you think the annual funds compares to the overall cost of construction?

Revenue in this state are 93% earmarked...

I am not a fan of the gas tax or how it was pushed through either...
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57556 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 7:42 am to
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At the very least, we ought to legalize the lottery and expand gambling before resorting to increased gasoline taxes.




Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42582 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 7:45 am to
That low population areas needing new roads shouldn't be a critical path to the majority? Why are you so sensitive about Selma?
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55533 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 7:47 am to
Revenue streams of both are more voluntary than gasoline tax. I know most places reserve taxes from both towards education, but there is nothing that says they can't be earmarked to infrastructural needs.

Both affect poor folks more, but I'd rather tax dumb poor folks than all poor folks.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26839 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 7:48 am to
before this increase, what was the amount of gas tax earmarked for road and bridge construction?

and...

is the amount set aside from the amount being withheld to repair roads?
Posted by Walkthedawg
Dawg Pound
Member since Oct 2012
11466 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 8:19 am to
You could be like Georgia, voters voted against a gas tax, so the just took lanes off the interstate and created Peach Pass lane. Now if you want to get home quicker, you have to pay them

They're going to get your money one way or the other
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58316 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 8:30 am to
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every dollar will be scrutinized to ensure it is used appropriately.


I remember when they said lottery proceeds would go to education in La.
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