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re: Alabama Judge to Determine Future of Father’s Rights in Case of Plaintiff Who was Aborted
Posted on 7/25/19 at 10:34 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
Posted on 7/25/19 at 10:34 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
How can they kill something that I have rights to? If I signed a contract to deal with the consequences of sex and accept its results then a woman harming my rights to that fetus should pay a civil penalty for to me for the pain, suffering and mental anguish.
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Posted on 7/25/19 at 10:34 am to Centinel
quote:please tell this to the OP, who said exactly the opposite in the post immediately above yours.quote:I disagree. They are two different subjects. A discussion on a right to life is not the same discussion on a right to inherit property.
Not if you are consistent.
Also, please express this sentiment in all future abortion threads in which a SoCon contends that “a life is a life.“
Posted on 7/25/19 at 10:39 am to AggieHank86
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please tell this to the OP, who said exactly the opposite in the post immediately above yours.
I'm going to need you to detail how you came to the conclusion that the phrase "a life is a life no matter how it's conceived", equates to arguing that the right to not have your life taken away is the same discussion as inheriting property.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 10:40 am to AggieHank86
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please tell this to the OP, who said exactly the opposite in the post immediately above yours.
I'm not following your line of thought here.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 10:42 am to Centinel
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I'm not following your line of thought here.
Yea i'm lost too. I think we've skipped a stop or two on the thought train.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 10:45 am to Centinel
quote:every abortion thread includes a poster Claiming that there should be no exception for rape or incest because “a life is a life.“quote:I'm not following your line of thought here.
please tell this to the OP, who said exactly the opposite in the post immediately above yours.
you were saying that a life is a life for purposes of abortion, but not for purposes of inheritance. It is my position that this is entirely inconsistent
Posted on 7/25/19 at 10:47 am to AggieHank86
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Earliest cases about the alleged Rights of an unborn child arose related (not surprisingly) to issues of inheritance. For a variety of very good reasons, the law developed that no such rights existed.
only because there was never any question before liberalism that a baby was and has always been a person and a life.
only very recently have liberals declared its ok to murder babies so mom can avoid any inconvenience or responsibilities of motherhood
Posted on 7/25/19 at 10:48 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
you are all for saving the life of the innocent baby but you are also for taking the life of guilty murderer. This is the irony that i will never understand.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 10:49 am to GoCrazyAuburn
But if the guy were to kill the mother before birth, he would be charged with 2 murders in some areas. That Father would be responsible for that kid, and legally responsible financially by the legal system for raising that kid if delivered. Society has put a lot of responsibility on Fathers to not have any rights, or say, or even standing. Good to see this discussion...
Posted on 7/25/19 at 10:50 am to hawkeye007
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you are all for saving the life of the innocent baby but you are also for taking the life of guilty murderer.
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This is the irony that i will never understand.
I'm not sure you really understand the use of the word irony.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 10:51 am to AggieHank86
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every abortion thread includes a poster Claiming that there should be no exception for rape or incest because “a life is a life.“
you were saying that a life is a life for purposes of abortion, but not for purposes of inheritance. It is my position that this is entirely inconsistent
Eh, I get what you're saying. I still disagree with it however. We already have long-standing laws of inheritance based on an "Age of Majority", so a "life is still a life" can be a thing yet still be unable to inherit.
Arguing the opposing viewpoint isn't nearly as fun as shitposting.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 10:52 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
This should get really interesting if it goes through and then a woman aborts a baby from rape and the person that raped the woman gets this ball rolling for that baby.
Could make some heads spin on all sides, I look forward to it.
Could make some heads spin on all sides, I look forward to it.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 10:55 am to AggieHank86
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imagine that a Man with a wife and one child in medieval England got the scullery maid pregnant.
In that time, illegitimate children didn't inherit shite.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 10:57 am to GoCrazyAuburn
a life is life. the rest is just irony on how people justify it.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 10:59 am to dawgfan24348
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Abortion does not equal murdering children but spin away
You have a valid point here. We aborted a litter of my dog’s puppies. We didn’t murder those 6 puppies, but we did kill them. Killing innocent babies IS murder.
Linking your other post with the rape and life of mother.
Killing the unborn child that is threatening the life of the mother is self defense and abortion wouldn’t be murder in this case as well. But in rape? Let’s do a thought experiment: a young man and woman are assaulted. The criminal ties up the male and rapes the woman in the tied up man’s presence. Now whenever she sees the young man she relives the rape to her psychological detriment. Does she have the right to abort/murder/kill him? The child that results from rape or incest is just an innocent bystander too. Shouldn’t she allow the child to live for the few months that she would even be aware of her pregnancy? According to WebMD, women do not feel their child until week 16-25 of their pregnancy. According to New York’s Department of Health: A preterm or premature baby is delivered before 37 weeks of your pregnancy. Extremely preterm infants are born 23 through 28 weeks. Moderately preterm infants are born between 29 and 33 weeks. Late preterm infants are born between 34 and 37 weeks.
Now admittedly this is best case, but victim becomes aware of child 25 weeks, child delivery earliest possible moderate premature date, 29 weeks. That’s 4 weeks. Isn’t an innocent child worth 4 weeks under intense psychological care for an innocent human life?
Posted on 7/25/19 at 11:00 am to hawkeye007
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a life is life. the rest is just irony on how people justify it.
This is a dumb take.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 11:00 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
Yeah so the mom just shouldn't have got raped. That's basically what you're saying
Posted on 7/25/19 at 11:02 am to dawgfan24348
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instances rape or where the mother's life is in danger
Sigh.
The ol’ rape red herring.
The percentage of abortions that occur bc of rape or risk to a mother!s life are fewer than 10% (maybe fewer than 5%—I can’t recall exactly).
And there exist legal provisions to treat these highly unique cases on individual bases.
This tired argument has long ceased being one with teeth.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 11:02 am to dawgfan24348
You’re killing a human.
There is no other way to put it.
That’s why the abortion movement is so, awful, the way they celebrate and trivialize it.
The drags the conversation onto another topic, but is it a rejection of motherhood? And the idea of the feminine?
I don’t know.
There is no other way to put it.
That’s why the abortion movement is so, awful, the way they celebrate and trivialize it.
The drags the conversation onto another topic, but is it a rejection of motherhood? And the idea of the feminine?
I don’t know.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 11:02 am to EKG
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And there exist legal provisions to treat these highly unique cases on individual bases.
Not in Alabama anymore.
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