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re: Alabama IVF ruling

Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:06 pm to
Posted by reddy tiger
Mandeville
Member since Aug 2012
1560 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:06 pm to
quote:

life begins at conception.


This is going to come back to haunt conservatives, as “life begins at conception” will seem ridiculous to millions of reasonable people due to this ruling. It’s a Pyrrhic victory for religious nuts.
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 6:17 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50527 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:11 pm to
LINK

Was the original thread going so poorly for people making your argument that you felt compelled to start a new thread in an effort to salvage your nonsensical opinions on this matter?
Posted by RFK
Squire Creek
Member since May 2012
1326 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:11 pm to
This is a classic case of what happens when you have identity politicians instead of trained lawyers making laws.

Reminds me of the vote to “make the right to bear arms a fundamental right” cir. 2012. Only after it passed did the right wingers realize that made it harder to deprive convicted felons of the right to buy firearms after they get out of prison.

Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50527 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:11 pm to
quote:

This is going to come back to haunt religious conservatives, as “life begins at conception” will seem ridiculous to millions of reasonable people due to this ruling. It’s a Pyrrhic victory for conservatives.


You're a moron.
Posted by NotPrepared
Member since Jun 2020
150 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:13 pm to
Imagine mailing flat stanley here off to the gulag
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111546 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:13 pm to
quote:

This is a classic case of what happens when you have identity politicians instead of trained lawyers making laws


This thread is what happens when progs are mad that not enough babies are being killed.
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
553 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:24 pm to
These are the idiotic things “conservatives” do to turn off voters. They die on some of the dumbest hills and fix absolutely nothing in the process
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63553 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:30 pm to
This is a horrible decision that could have a tragic consequences for couples trying to have a family.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63553 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:33 pm to
Wait, what about the poor zygotes?
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20532 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:34 pm to
quote:

This doesn’t limit anybody’s ability to offer or use IVF.


UAB stopped offering IVF today to avoid the likelihood of it's doctors being prosecuted.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123945 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:36 pm to
quote:

I really don't understand what Alabama is trying to do here
Our politicians on both sides align with positions rather than the associated possibilities. The anti-abortion position is humanness begins at fertilization.

Despite multiple cautionaries, including those on this site, human-at-fertilization is THE POSITION, period! Any position comes with consequences. An IVF accident is one of the consequences.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12522 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:49 pm to
This is just accelerating idiocracy becoming real life. Poors can’t abort and the rich educated can’t get test tube babies anymore. Just more dummies coming soon to a city near you. Gonna be great. I’m glad I’ll be dead.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:50 pm to
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Meaning frozen embryo's that are not used and destroyed could cause parents and medical facilities to me charged with man slaughter.

Hell, what's to stop the state from charging a woman who has miscarried with negligent homicide?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111546 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:51 pm to
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Hell, what's to stop the state from charging a woman who has miscarried with negligent homicide?


Nothing that our imaginations can’t collectively hold.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48979 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:53 pm to
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If a lab tech drops an embryo container can they be charged with negligent homicide?


Under this ruling, yes.

I expect Alexander shunnarah to advertise soon
Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
17940 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:54 pm to
It’s about time for me to move out of Alabama I think.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12522 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 7:15 pm to
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It’s about time for me to move out of Alabama I think.

Not me. I’m going there, putting a bunch of tubes of jizz in a freezer and then claiming them all as dependents on my taxes.
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 7:27 pm
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
24912 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 7:18 pm to
Anyone have the actual ruling or link to it & not just hyperbole from the fake news?
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7548 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:32 pm to
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UAB stopped offering IVF today to avoid the likelihood of it's doctors being prosecuted.


Well, in the most litigious state in the country, Louisiana, it sure hasn’t stopped hospitals from offering IVF, and the laws have been that way for decades.

Maybe the board at UAB is as misinformed as most of the people in this thread.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50527 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:32 pm to
quote:

This is a classic case of what happens when you have identity politicians instead of trained lawyers making laws.


Is it? Because no one with a brain has any problem with this at all.

quote:

Reminds me of the vote to “make the right to bear arms a fundamental right” cir. 2012. Only after it passed did the right wingers realize that made it harder to deprive convicted felons of the right to buy firearms after they get out of prison.


I have no problem with people who complete their sentences, fully, being given back their rights.
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