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re: Air traffic controllers say FAA hiring practices, ‘immunity program,’ led to DC plane cras
Posted on 2/9/25 at 11:45 am to the808bass
Posted on 2/9/25 at 11:45 am to the808bass
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Yeah. I saw it from the beginning.
bullshite.
Youve been defending it for two pages
If you had noticed it you could have saved yourself from pontificating on dubmass talking points.
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Posted on 2/9/25 at 11:45 am to Kjnstkmn
Posted on 2/9/25 at 11:46 am to RogerTheShrubber
I was commenting on your knee jerk posting about DEI.
You avoided the rest of my post. I guess that’s going to be your response to the findings of staffing issues in the ATCT.
You avoided the rest of my post. I guess that’s going to be your response to the findings of staffing issues in the ATCT.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 11:48 am to the808bass
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I was commenting on your knee jerk posting about DEI.
Well you sure picked the wrong fricking thread to do that, bucko, in which the OP lied to prove some "DEI" talkin point
If you had credibility, you too would have seen through this populist retardation.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 11:50 am to RogerTheShrubber
You’re still avoiding the point I’m rather clearly expressing. I’ll chalks it up to your temporary insanity.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 11:51 am to the808bass
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You’re still avoiding the point
The only point is youre defense raging in response to me calling out a lie.
What a brilliant stance.
This post was edited on 2/9/25 at 11:53 am
Posted on 2/9/25 at 11:54 am to HeadCall
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I’ve listened to the audio. I don’t think the controller did anything wrong. This crash is pretty much solely on the helicopter pilot fricking up.
I don’t understand why the helicopter didn’t just stop and wait. It’s a helicopter, it can do that.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 11:58 am to Chucktown_Badger
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I don’t understand why the helicopter didn’t just stop and wait. It’s a helicopter, it can do that.
The entire thing seems fricked up. Tower was talking to the instructor, seems like too many people involved for such a critical juncture. Its obvious the actual pilot never saw the plane.
Ive flown small planes (172s and 150s) and had much better visual instructions than these folks appeared to have. I'm not sure everyone was on the same page.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 11:59 am to TigerintheNO
If one flight was IFR, then there ia culpability for ATC. They became that flights "vision' and are responsible for separation between aircraft.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 12:01 pm to Cosmo
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Eh. ATC has some blame but doesnt explain heli pilot being too high
Plot twist, it was her coke at the White House.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 12:06 pm to Jbird
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ATC failed to control the airspace as well, there aren't many solo fault aviation accidents
Didn’t ATC inform the helicopter that they were to high/off course and told them to fly behind the plane?
And you are totally correct about solo fault accidents. I think people don’t realize that (not saying the poster you replied to is insinuating that) because a lot of accidents are classified as ‘pilot error’. The media won’t go into details as to why the pilot made the error, was it lack of training, bad information (like from ATC or equipment).
I think the blame in this crash will go more towards the pilot of the helicopter. Perhaps ATC didn’t notice the helicopter sooner. I haven’t been able to really get into this crash like I’d like to.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 12:21 pm to dupergreenie
Yeah I agree, the point is rarely a mishap is a single reason. The 100% blah blah is as someone else noted a very simplistic comment.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 12:49 pm to Kjnstkmn
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Consensus in the comments is that this was an intentional act
After watching these clips, it certainly seems understandable why some people may come to that conclusion.
As for me, I still am holding to the assumption that this was a horrendous accident compounded by a series of critical errors both in and outside the helicopter.
Whatever the case may be, the entire CoC that signed off on this training mission should be held accountable and face some measure of impactful repercussions.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 12:57 pm to Jbird
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Yeah I agree, the point is rarely a mishap is a single reason. The 100% blah blah is as someone else noted a very simplistic comment.
It’s simplistic because there’s a simple reason for the crash. The helicopter was too high.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 12:58 pm to HeadCall
quote:Never give up.
It’s simplistic because there’s a simple reason for the crash. The helicopter was too high.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 2:50 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
You “Young Punks on here may not remember this” but David Duke said this (affirmative action ) will never work over 40 years ago.
People thought he was crazy.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 3:14 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Well… they’re just racist. Literal Nazis.
Or something something…
Or something something…
Posted on 2/9/25 at 3:17 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
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Air traffic controllers say FAA hiring practices, ‘immunity program,’ led to DC plane crash
This is not substantiated by this…
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Current and former air traffic controllers warn that the Federal Aviation Administration’s hiring practices and “immunity program” have led to problems, such as those that may have resulted in the recent midair collision near Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport.
Don’t be like the MSM.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 3:18 pm to namvet6566
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People thought he was crazy.
Hardly anyone thought he was crazy. Most people thought he was a vicious racists, which he was.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 3:21 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Stop trying to weasel out of the truth....
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