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re: Air Force ad prominently featuring female pilots ....

Posted on 10/17/20 at 11:25 pm to
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21781 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 11:25 pm to
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Well i'm serving as i type this right now,


If you think it’s like any other job then you’re in some support role. If you’ll read my posts I’m talking about combat arms and field conditions, and if you think THOSE are like any other job then you’re just ignorant.

But if you think sex is a non-issue, why do we have separate latrines? Separate quarters? When you go down range why are their rules about men in female barracks? Why are there different physical fitness standards?
Posted by Navtiger1
Washington
Member since Aug 2007
3368 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 11:25 pm to
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Standards that have been lowered to accommodate inadequate soldiers and sailors?


And that's a problem and i already stated the standards should not change to accommodate anyone. meet it or get out.

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Why do you want women to serve?


Why do you so adamantly not?

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What weird need does it fulfill for you?


What kind of strange fetishy question is that? sorry your rapey and can't keep your hands off women.

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Do you want to see our enemies capturing and raping female soldiers?


Stop watching GI Jane...it's fake. And torture is torture. I don't really want to see male soldiers being decapitated or set on fire either. Whats the difference?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21781 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 11:27 pm to
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But give some credit to the ranking officials that are testing our troops competencies and ranking them. They are the gatekeepers and creators of standards to keep our military above the rest of the world's. They know a hell of a lot more than you and obviously disagree with your logic.


You have no idea what you’re talking about.
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
4107 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 11:27 pm to
That's fine. I'm not going to give you the name. But if you search my posts hard enough, you'll find it. I had a name prior to this one on here. And on that one, somebody figured out who my brother was because he held a pretty public position at one point a few years back related to firearms.

It's all true sweet pea. You don't have to believe it.

But understand this. I've got three daughters who could put you in the dirt with a drone. And I've got nephews who are doing things my brother could only dream of in the military right now.

We are way past whatever archaic retardation you think is necessary to win wars in 2020.
Posted by oleusakid
Member since Sep 2020
1069 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 11:27 pm to
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Oh, bull shite. Being against the concept doesn’t mean you wish them ill. If I don’t want some 240 lb male playing women’s field hockey because of how he “identifies” does that mean I wish him harm? No, I just think it’s a bad idea.




I think you could have come up with a more closely related analogy than that.

We disagree. And that is fine. You can think it's a bad idea and still 'support' while I am proud of any kid wearing our uniform, putting in the work and fighting for us. End of discussion, brother.

ETA: By the way, my direct point was "rooting against them", which is far from 'wishing them harm'. That is something you incorrectly inferred.
This post was edited on 10/17/20 at 11:30 pm
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19255 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 11:30 pm to
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Because of.....reasons? The mystique of the Woman and needing the heroic Man there to protect her is in general nonsense.


You realize that’s exactly what women want, right?

On the dating market, they’re looking for someone who provides a sense of physical security?

Modern man has a lot of fancy trappings, but we’re operating on the same basic biological imperatives that have driven us for since the dawn of time.

Women despise weak men, because weak men are dangerous, they can’t be relied on to protect them, or their children.

They want someone who will take charge and offer protection.

This manifests in a hundred small ways, it’s why your girlfriend asks you to choose the restaurant. She wants you to lead.

The quickest way to make a women miserable, is to force her to take charge in a relationship.
This post was edited on 10/17/20 at 11:31 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21781 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 11:30 pm to
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The mystique of the Woman and needing the heroic Man there to protect her is in general nonsense.


Damn, you post stupid stuff.
Posted by Navtiger1
Washington
Member since Aug 2007
3368 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 11:31 pm to
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If you’ll read my posts I’m talking about combat arms and field conditions, and if you think THOSE are like any other job then you’re just ignorant.


Why are you thinking about fricking in a fire fight? If you want dirty pussy that hasn't showered in weeks...well you have issues.

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But if you think sex is a non-issue, why do we have separate latrines? Separate quarters? When you go down range why are their rules about men in female barracks?


Why do we have those literally everywhere? It's only because our society dictates. That isn't the case in all military's around the world.

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Why are there different physical fitness standards?


I already said i don't agree with this. Never have and never will. Meet the same male standard or get out.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
17733 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 11:33 pm to
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risk their life for us, then our proper and worthy response is to shut the hell up and salute them.



Some of the youngest troops serving in Afghanistan weren’t even born on 9-11-2001. Now, I hope no harm befalls ANY of our troops but on that same token, I have no deep-seated gratitude for anyone who signed up for such a mission.

Frankly, they have been duped by a massive and insidious propaganda campaign. Again, permanent occupation of Afghanistan is not doing a damn thing to protect this nation’s liberty and in a multitude of ways actually endangers our nation’s liberty.
This post was edited on 10/17/20 at 11:35 pm
Posted by oleusakid
Member since Sep 2020
1069 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 11:35 pm to
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But give some credit to the ranking officials that are testing our troops competencies and ranking them. They are the gatekeepers and creators of standards to keep our military above the rest of the world's. They know a hell of a lot more than you and obviously disagree with your logic.



You have no idea what you’re talking about.


Oh yeah, because the troops are definitely not being regularly tested on their competency. And they are are never kicked out if they cannot perform. Give me a break. I have relatives that serve, and the girls have to meet the same performance marks as they do. There's no free lunch. If they are there it's because they've earned it, pal.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19255 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 11:40 pm to
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We are way past whatever archaic retardation you think is necessary to win wars in 2020.


The Syrians had pissed off the Russians, and to teach them a lesson, the Russians gave the Turks permission to stage an operation in Idlib.

As part of the deal, the Russians gave the Turks free reign in the skies.

The Turks took advantage of the situation and flooded Idlib and northern Hama with drones, and they inflicted heavily casualties on the Syrians. This was more than the Russians were willing to tolerate, Hama was not pet of the agreement, and after 48 hours, the Russians reactivated their air defenses.

Within hours the Turkish offensive was over. Not because the Turks wanted to stop. But because the Russians had completely neutralized their drones. Some were shot down, but others simply crashed, due to electronic interference.

Drones don’t work well in contested airspace.

I keep on reading about revolutions in warfare. And how technology will change everything.

It never pans out.

Wars will always be won on the ground.
This post was edited on 10/17/20 at 11:46 pm
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19255 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 11:41 pm to
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There's no free lunch. If they are there it's because they've earned it, pal.



Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21424 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 11:41 pm to
Yeah, until a platoon of them get captured and raped to death like what happened to the Israel's.
Posted by oleusakid
Member since Sep 2020
1069 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 11:42 pm to
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Some of the youngest troops serving in Afghanistan weren’t even born on 9-11-2001. Now, I hope no harm befalls ANY of our troops but on that same token, I have no deep-seated gratitude for anyone who signed up for such a mission.


I see your point, but your disagreement isn't with the troops it's with the government. They choose to engage unnecessarily, not the military and certainly not the troops. You are right that they got duped, but that is another issue.
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
4107 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 11:42 pm to
I've got to assume you're some private that did a few years in the army. And if so, you've got a few points. Barely. But for the Air Force? You really want to eliminate half the damn population from possible expertise in shite that they might just be superior in as an individual?

That's just ignorant. I feel bad for your parents because they knew this about you a long time ago.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19255 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 11:44 pm to
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I already said i don't agree with this. Never have and never will. Meet the same male standard or get out.


This how it works.

They create the standard.

No women pass.

This embarrasses someone in the Pentagon, so a candidate gets helped through, and the standards are lowered until enough women can get through.

Look! We all always knew they could do it!
This post was edited on 10/17/20 at 11:44 pm
Posted by AnyonebutSteelers
Austin, Texas
Member since Aug 2020
711 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 11:46 pm to
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Unless you’re AF command, I call BS.

Every swinging dick under 50 wants to fly.


As I understand it, it's not because of a lack of desire - plenty of people want to fly. It's because only officers are allowed to be pilots (not enlisted,) and because the training programs accommodate too few trainees to replace leaving pilots - leaving to a stovepipe issue.

Up until the pandemic, there was also high demand by airlines who were willing to pay six-figure salaries, which caused so many Air Force pilots to leave for the airlines that the USAF at one point had to offer ten-year, $400,000+ re-enlistment bonuses to keep its fighter pilots in the force.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
17733 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 11:47 pm to
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We are way past whatever archaic retardation you think is necessary to win wars in 2020.




If you believe that war is clean and antiseptic, you are the retarded one. These contrived wars of 3rd World subjugation do not alter the reality that war will always be fought at the pointed tip of the spear.

This post was edited on 10/18/20 at 12:38 am
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
4107 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 11:48 pm to
Oh yeah? What drones were these?

We talking quadcopters or are we talking stealth surveilance stuff or are we talking the fighter drones just now coming online?

You need to wise up. You can't even point to a drone online that's up and running in the most important role in air dominance. Why do you think that is sport?

And what the hell would make you believe it would be coming from Turkey.

Sorry bud, you're not impressing me much.
Posted by oleusakid
Member since Sep 2020
1069 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 11:48 pm to
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That's just ignorant. I feel bad for your parents because they knew this about you a long time ago.


Or worse, he reflects their beliefs..
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