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Navtiger1
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re: Air Force ad prominently featuring female pilots ....
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This how it works.

They create the standard.

No women pass.

This embarrasses someone in the Pentagon, so a candidate gets helped through, and the standards are lowered until enough women can get through.

Look! We all always knew they could do it!


Yes i'm well aware of this. And i disagree with it.

But that doesn't apply to everything related to women in the military, Spec Ops and maybe infantry. Aviation is a very different animal to all of that. And i have yet to see standards modified for women in aviation. Arial combat vs. transport isn't all that different physically.


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There’s also the question of barbarism. What kind of culture sends it women out to die.



Do you consider the Israelis barbarians?


Captain Rumbeard
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Obviously he does.

Dinosaurs died out for a reason. They couldn't adapt. This idiot is no different.

Anybody who wouldn't use half their damn population for shite their good at is begging for death.

Not saying we want them on the front lines as grunts. But Air Force? You shittin me?


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Lima Whiskey
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Oh yeah? What drones were these?


Child

The Russians have done the same thing to us in Syria. Interfering with GPS and our drone operations.

The Russians have a specific and real advantage in electronic warfare. Specifically in air defense systems.


Lima Whiskey
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Do you consider the Israelis barbarians?


I’m glad you mentioned that.

The Israelis don’t use women in combat.

The Caracal Battalion is a ceremonial unit.


Lima Whiskey
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Aviation is a very different animal to all of that. And i have yet to see standards modified for women in aviation. Arial combat vs. transport isn't all that different physically.


It erodes esprit de corps. Mixed units are less effective.


Captain Rumbeard
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Child?

LOL I probably know your daddy. Hell, might have fricked your mom.

I have actual relations involved in this particular problem right now as we speak. And you're some wanna be on the internet that's desperately grasping at straws because you don't know when to bail out of a thread.

I am so freaking happy I get to refresh this now.

LOL.


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Toomer Deplorable
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Do you consider the Israelis barbarians?


It is a long standing myth that Israel has fully integrated female troops into full combat roles. Though women in the IDF serve in anti-aircraft and anti-missile batteries, women are absent from direct combat roles such as artillery, tank or infantry units..


Esquire
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women are absent from direct combat roles such as artillery, tank or infantry units..



So just like the Air Force?


Navtiger1
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It erodes esprit de corps. Mixed units are less effective.


You have no idea what you are talking about. Sorry, but that isn't the case in all areas of the military.


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Toomer Deplorable
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The Israelis don’t use women in combat.

The Caracal Battalion is a ceremonial unit.






You beat me to it....you are staying a post ahead of me in this thread!



Women In The Israeli Defense Forces: Separating Myth From Reality.


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Israeli women serve in Israel’s armed forces with distinction and their contribution is critical to the IDF’s mission. What they don’t do is serve in roles where they would need to close with the enemy and kill or be killed....

....It is particularly annoying to hear social justice warriors in America, none of whom has ever carried a weapon to war or experienced being shot at by the enemy, using the IDF and its supposed acceptance of women in combat roles as a shield against well-founded concerns that the American military is made weaker by putting “diversity” and other social engineering goals ahead of efficient war-fighting and emerging victorious from every mission.

These couch “analysts” know nothing of Israeli society, which is still highly patriarchal, with enthusiastic support by most women. Israel dotes over its women and its children. Young people, male and female, can’t wait to get married and start families with at least three kids. While the contribution of women to Israel’s defense is both immense and critical, the idea of mixed-gender tank crews or female casualties on the battlefield is utterly unthinkable.






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Toomer Deplorable
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So just like the Air Force?



There are female pilots flying combat planes in the Israeli Air Force as in the USAF.

Israeli Air Force makes history: First female F-35 pilot....
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needing to land every 10 minutes to pee


Esquire
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There are female pilots flying combat planes in the Israeli Air Force as in the USAF.



Barbaric


Toomer Deplorable
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Barbaric


No. re-read my OP: sending women (and men) to fight in endless and unnecessary wars of choice is barbaric.

Israel has less square footage than the State of New Jersey and would be swallowed whole by Lake Michigan. Israel has a lean defensive force defending a minuscule nation-state surrounded by hostile neighbors in a volatile region plagued by a millennia of ancient sectarian strife.

To compare Israel’s military needs with the massive global military footprint of the United States is an absurdly of the highest order. Israel is fighting for it’s survival — not fighting wars of Imperial occupation.







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Toomer Deplorable
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That would be a fitting recruiting ad for the DoD since the US military machine seems to have been reduced to serving as a giant maxipad commercial.


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bayoumuscle21
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Fwiw, my coworkers daughter is one of the pilots in this ad. He is very conservative, Christian, as is his daughter (the pilot.)


Ace Midnight
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The only 2 modern nations with extensive experience putting large numbers of women into combat roles, Russia and Israel, don't do it any longer (or if they have resumed, they did so only recently).

I wonder why that is...


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Toomer Deplorable
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He is very conservative, Christian, as is his daughter (the pilot.)


The biggest threat to the continuance of Liberty in this nation comes not from Moscow, Tehran or Beijing. It comes from the deeply embedded class of utter criminals in Washington D.C. who control all the true levers of power in this nation.

We are literally experiencing a communist insurgency in the streets of our nation’s largest cities. This violent street rabble has the implicit support — and indeed very likely may be receiving material support — from wholly corrupted elements within our nation’s national security apparatus.

Make no mistake, the Pentagon is the beating heart and global enforcing arm of this wholly corrupted apparatus. I would implore any good Christian who supports the Imperial War Machine to prayerfully reassess what exactly it is they are supporting.

The biggest bait and switch con-job in this nation’s history has been convincing God-fearing Christians that reflexive support of our nation’s military efforts is the mark of a good patriot. The current crisis continues until true supporters of limited government awaken to this reality.
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Lima Whiskey
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It comes from the deeply embedded class of utter criminals in Washington D.C. who control all the true levers of power in this nation.


Absolutely

The ruling class they replaced believed in service. They volunteered for combat, and paid their dues.

The Roosevelt’s are a good example of that. Theodore Roosevelt Jr. led from the front, and famously landed with his soldiers at Normandy. He was too old and too infirm, and should never have been there in the first place, but he did his duty.

These people, who came into power in the sixties and seventies, do not believe in service, and considered putting themselves, or their children in harms way, as crazy.

They’re motivated by greed and power. And that’s all they care about.

The Biden’s are a great example of that. They’re thugs.


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