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re: AI Video is Getting Really Good, Hollywood Doesn't Have Long

Posted on 9/7/26 at 8:29 pm to
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 9/7/26 at 8:29 pm to
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Right. I thought about replying but didn't figure it was worth taking the time to point out to him that I never claimed it has arrived. It seems obvious that at the rate it is progressing it won't be long until it's as good or better than what you see out of Hollywood.
I worked for apple in the early 1990s and they rolled out their top of the line $12,000 Mac IIfx and a demo of something called "QuickTime" which could play 160x120 pixel videos at like 7-8 fps.

I thought to myself at the time computers will never ever be a serious platform for making videos.

Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 9/7/26 at 9:29 pm to
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This is how we defeat the demoncrats. By making conservative films using AI.


You know they'll be doing it.


If the democrats are going to make conservative films, I say 'have at it'....
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/saracasm - I obviously knew what you meant.

And you are absolutely correct, their ranks will do the same thing. But I still like the idea.

and AI based Denzel is correct. The term 'slop' is being promoted by industries and media. It's always this way, until 2 years from now, when the first fully AI generated movie is released in the theaters. Then in 10 years, one starts winning awards.

Truth is, the industry wants that power, absolutely - though they will virtue signal to save artists, actors... 'talent'. They just don't want anyone else to have it. And they can't really compete... well, they can have large budget films. But ask the studios to turn out Back Rooms or Obsession... LOL. Those films were made by the rounding errors in Hollywood executives' expenses.

But they will do whatever they can to use it. Why? Because Japan, China, South Korea and others are all making better films and catching up to Hollywood... and that's without AI.

The greatest asset Hollywood has - is a vast library of films, screen tests, and cash reserves to pay the estates of deceased actors. So, if in 5 years from now, you see a movie remake of the Magnificent Seven staring Marlon Brando, Kirk Douglas, Cary Grant and Tom cruise while Grace Kelly waves on, it's because they can legally get away with it and appeal to some older demographic who (might) pay to see it.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 9/7/26 at 9:36 pm to
Had to bust the tie just...because
Posted by tketaco
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Posted on 9/7/26 at 10:09 pm to
“The moving force is the creative faculty which takes this product as material, uses it and originates the next step.”
— Howard Roark, The Fountainhead

Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 9/7/26 at 10:10 pm to
AI doesn't know a conversation like that one would NEVER happen in the hood.
It really was a good presentation tho.
This post was edited on 9/7/26 at 10:25 pm
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 9/7/26 at 10:17 pm to
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worked for apple in the early 1990s and they rolled out their top of the line $12,000 Mac IIfx and a demo of something called "QuickTime" which could play 160x120 pixel videos at like 7-8 fps.

I was working at Gateway2000 in 94. I remember they set up a display with a machine running a DOOM demo on the latest and greatest 16 MEG video card.
CD burners was a hot topic for customer FAQ, and people were starting to realize how MP3 was such a bold step forward.
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 9/7/26 at 10:28 pm to
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something called "QuickTime" which could play 160x120 pixel videos at like 7-8 fps.

That tiny video would probably have taken about 5 minutes to load on the dial up networks we had back then.
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Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 9/7/26 at 10:54 pm to
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This is how we defeat the demoncrats. By making conservative films using AI.

Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 9/7/26 at 11:31 pm to
And I just completely my screenplay too...

Story of my life. A Day late and a dollar short.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
15727 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 11:31 pm to
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Yeah this is still shite arse slop. Just b/c it looks slightly better due to using a real movie to try and hide it doesn't change that their faces and mouths look like total shite when the lines get changed.


While correct, don't underestimate the power of the general public simply getting used to something and preferring it just because it's what they know...it's familiar.

That's what's happened with music and movies already when it comes to digital as the universal capture format instead of tape and film.

Take music. In addition to enabling limiting techniques that reduce the dynamic range down to a sliver, which causes listening fatigue that people don't even realize they're having, digitizing music also enables things like quantization and pitch correction that is every bit as unnatural as the artifacts that you're noticing in that AI clip.

But people are used to hearing it now. They are used to hearing people sing on perfect pitch 100% of the time, which is impossible to do without pitch correction. They're used to hearing drummers, etc., playing in perfect time, snapped to the grid, which is impossible to do 100% of the time.

At this point if you DON'T use it, you risk sounding noticeably "unprofessional" to the average person.

I predict this will happen with AI as well. It's not that people will be fooled so much as it is that they will stop caring. The artifacts won't bother them anymore. It will matter more to them what the technique enables than what isn't as good when using it.

To be fair, all mediums leave artifacts. When I was growing up listening to music we didn't think anything of the "tape hiss" noise floor that was an inevitable artifact of analog recordings (not unless it was really bad, anyway) and most of the artifacts inherent in that capture medium were positive—rounding off transients, low end bumps, increasing harmonic content, tape compression—but they were still artifacts.

Digital eliminated those artifacts, which was good...and bad.

I agree that AI still has a ways to go before it starts completely replacing actors and cameras, etc. But maybe not as far as you think, because if this ends up being like other evolutions in production, it won't ever look like "the real thing." What will happen is that people will start to prefer it to the "real thing."



Posted by RemyLeBeau
Member since Mar 2015
2731 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 8:25 am to
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I guess Hollywood is toast then


Go frick yourself, prick.


Aww, somebody's little feelings got hurt?
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 9/8/26 at 8:35 am to
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Aww, somebody's little feelings got hurt?


How old are you?
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
14287 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 8:36 am to
You say the same for country music, the shite is SLOP.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
176705 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 8:47 am to
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The last movie I watched that came out of there was Top Gun: Maverick. And before that it had been years since I had watched any new movies. It seems like that town doesn't have much longer at this rate. The AI capability has grown very quickly. Imagine where it'll be in just a couple more years.

As someone who so infrequently goes to the theaters you might be almost uniquely unqualified to have any clue of where the industry is heading. There doesn't seem to be any real demand for this stuff.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
45953 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 8:52 am to
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As someone who so infrequently goes to the theaters you might be almost uniquely unqualified to have any clue of where the industry is heading


Of course we can count on you to post something fricking stupid.

The fact is that box office ticket sales are 40% below what they were pre-pandemic. Still. So when I say I don't go to the movies anymore, I'm not the only one. Which is the point.
Posted by BCvol
Member since Jan 2022
1031 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 9:09 am to
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AI doesn't know a conversation like that one would NEVER happen in the hood.
It really was a good presentation tho.


That's why it will dominate, it will solve problems that have a solution that requires thinking outside the box.
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 9/8/26 at 9:09 am to
“ I pray for us to have the presence of mind to navigate it with enough wisdom to not enslave ourselves or otherwise wipe ourselves off the planet.”(quote BE).

We can pray, Ed, just like Jesus did in the Garden the night before his ultimate destiny was fulfilled, but Christians know what must happen. Humanity MUST realize our limitations and imperfections and ASK for the Loving Jesus to fulfill His Task as Savior. We may access the power of ‘Worldly’ truth but that don’t mean our flaws will guarantee wise use thereof.

The Rules forbid any unwilling takeover of Personal Sovereignty, either from Above or Below. Rightly so. Individuals must surrender their sovereignty to that which they deem their ultimate Value. Self (worship) or God are the options. Everyone will be forced to make an educated choice’. Rightly so, as no other choice would be valid.
Posted by RemyLeBeau
Member since Mar 2015
2731 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 9:44 am to
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Aww, somebody's little feelings got hurt?


How old are you?


Old enough to not let comments like that cause me to respond like a teenager. Don't try and act like you're some beacon of maturity.
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
10857 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 9:56 am to
There's a lot of potential. The problem is that India has discovered it and is absolutely drowning us trying to monetize their slop. If I could ask for one thing, it would be a country-level filter for the Internet. We saw a hint of this about a decade ago when Indians and Pakistanis figured out how to SEO bomb google. The YouTube situation is getting even worse than that.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
45953 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 10:26 am to
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Old enough to not let comments like that cause me to respond like a teenager.


Your comment was the message board equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and your tongue out. You behave like a child.
This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 10:27 am
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