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re: ahmaud arbery trial has started. its live now.

Posted on 11/5/21 at 12:35 pm to
Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
24369 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 12:35 pm to
These guys are murderers... what they did was wrong. They should be convicted.


But I wish the media would stop referring to Arbery as a jogger. The dude is a criminal and was murdered by other criminals
Posted by 511
Texas
Member since Oct 2021
138 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 12:43 pm to
they never tried to run him over with the car. none of the videos show that.

the videos show him running from the house under construction. and then being followed down the road to where the truck was waiting.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27963 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

Yet half of this board defends them.


Not calling them backwards hillbillies and saying they're 100% guilty means you defend them, apparently.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
9988 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 12:47 pm to
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I have never defended his character.


Can you defend him attempting to grab a loaded rifle?


There's the problem, a 'loaded rifle' (pretending to be a shotgun) should never have been near the man. But it was, and the guys deciding to put it there weren't cops, but they were threatening.

It was their unforced error, decisions that they made, and they're going to prison for it.

Jogger, Theif, Baker, Candlestick Maker - doesn't matter. They were playing cop.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

they never tried to run him over with the car. none of the videos show that.



The one guy admitted to it. Only the end of the chase was filmed.
Posted by 511
Texas
Member since Oct 2021
138 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 12:53 pm to
its 100% legal to open carry a long gun in georgia.

its also 100% legal to make a citizens arrest in georgia.

2010 Georgia Code
TITLE 17 - CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
CHAPTER 4 - ARREST OF PERSONS
ARTICLE 4 - ARREST BY PRIVATE PERSONS
§ 17-4-60 - Grounds for arrest

O.C.G.A. 17-4-60 (2010)
17-4-60. Grounds for arrest

"A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion."
Posted by Jubal_Harshaw
Member since Nov 2021
95 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

quote:

they never tried to run him over with the car. none of the videos show that.
The one guy admitted to it. Only the end of the chase was filmed.
I cannot find it right now, but at an evidentiary hearing this summer the state presented a video (Georgia Bureau of Investigation maybe?) that re-created the entire chase with assembled video footage from a number of sources, plus geo-fencing info from the phones, I think.

I seem to recall that it showed the Defendants "cutting him off" at more than one location.
Posted by 511
Texas
Member since Oct 2021
138 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 12:55 pm to
which "one guy?"

source?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28042 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 12:56 pm to
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Not calling them backwards hillbillies


The virtue signaling on that cracks me up. “I’m so non-racist I’m going to use racial slurs to describe 3 white guys because they shot a black guy”. I’m not sure there’s been a single thread on this without “redneck” or “hillbilly” getting tossed around.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

which "one guy?"


quote:

Bryan also got into his vehicle and attempted to use it to block Arbery's path several times, Dial said. He said Bryan allegedly struck Arbery during the pursuit hard enough that it left a dent in his vehicle.


quote:

source?




LINK
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
9988 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 1:21 pm to
Then do so during the commission of a violent crime, not “I think he was up to no good stealing stuff a quarter mile back a half hour ago”
Posted by 511
Texas
Member since Oct 2021
138 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 1:44 pm to
"allegedly"

he said, she said.

ill believe it when they show the dent on the vehicle.

thank you for the link.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 2:01 pm to
So you think a special agent for the Georgia Bureau of Investigations lied about it under oath?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42534 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 2:02 pm to
quote:


he said, she said.


Except the he is one of the defendants. He said he tried to hit Aubrey.
Posted by 511
Texas
Member since Oct 2021
138 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 2:24 pm to
its possible. police lie all the time.

i bet you believe arbery was jogging?
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
19544 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 2:26 pm to
Yea, if it's on film, I may believe it. Until then...

I'm not totally buying it.
Posted by 511
Texas
Member since Oct 2021
138 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 2:26 pm to
possibly to help himself with a more lenient sentence. there should be a video of pictures of the dent correct?
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 2:27 pm to
So the GBI agent was lying about it and the guy that told the police he did it was lying as well? Are you really this fricking stupid?
Posted by 511
Texas
Member since Oct 2021
138 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 2:30 pm to
i answered your question already.

do you think arbery was jogging? yes or no?
Posted by Jubal_Harshaw
Member since Nov 2021
95 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 2:32 pm to
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Yea, if it's on film, I may believe it. Until then...

I'm not totally buying it.
Prosecutors call this the "CSI Effect."

Americans have gotten so-accustomed to every fictional case having some damning piece of physical/forensic evidence, that they have unrealistic expectations of actual investigations and are unwilling to believe anything without that sort of evidence.
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