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re: AG threatens 8 New Orleans leaders with removal from office in court clerk battle

Posted on 5/13/26 at 3:14 pm to
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 3:14 pm to
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Have you read the law you keep raising hell about? Again, no matter how many times you say it the legislature did not create a "new" office


You are stating that Orleans Parish voters elected Napoleon the office of OP Civil Clerk of Court. You are stating there was never an election for Criminal Clerk of Court because voters elected Napoleon to perform all the duties associated with any clerkship.
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 3:19 pm to
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Do you work for the criminal clerks office or are you hoping that this issue will somehow shoehorn into the broader redistricting “disenfranchisement” narrative your party is working on?


Nope. The State should not circumvent voters to manipulate or invalidate the outcome of a legitimate election simply because it technically possesses the authority to do so.
Posted by Red Stick Rambler
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 3:20 pm to
The legislature routinely tweaks the "duties" of the Clerks of Courts - does that mean there has to be an election every time?

And more to the point of your original post - setting aside your (false) premise that a "new" office was created, what role does the New Orleans City Council have in calling elections for offices created by state law.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 3:21 pm to
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If your company/organization merged another position into yours and placed you in charge of both sets of duties, would you be insisting that there needs to be a competitive application process for the job you already have?


Why are you ignoring the election aspect of this?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 3:21 pm to
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You are stating that Orleans Parish voters elected Napoleon the office of OP Civil Clerk of Court. You are stating there was never an election for Criminal Clerk of Court because voters elected Napoleon to perform all the duties associated with any clerkship.

Nope. They elected Napoleon for Civil Clerk of Court.

The Legislature made that position bigger and now calls it just the Orleans Parish Clerk of Court. They can, and did, do that if they want to.

It’s just that simple. The fake implication that the dumbest bloc of voters in the State made some considered decision to vote for civil or criminal clerk based on the actual duties of those offices or the merits of the candidates relative to those duties (which are absolutely nothing besides getting a paycheck fwiw) is simply hilarious.

Just say it out loud and it should signal its own absurdity.

“WE DID NOT VOTE FOR THIS LADY TO SCAN IN CRIMINAL PLEADINGS. ONLY CIVIL ONES!”
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 3:22 pm to
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The legislature routinely tweaks the "duties" of the Clerks of Courts - does that mean there has to be an election every time?


Every time the state legislature eliminates an office in response to the outcome of the election for that office and transfers the duties of the eliminated office to a different elected office, a new election should be held.
Posted by Indefatigable
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 3:22 pm to
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Why are you ignoring the election aspect of this?

Because it’s irrelevant. The position was abolished. I don’t care if 35,000,000 people, dogs, cats, members of Congress, the Pope, and Jesus Christ voted in that election. The position was still abolished.
Posted by Indefatigable
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 3:23 pm to
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Every time the state legislature eliminates an office in response to the outcome of the election for that office and transfers the duties of the eliminated office to a different elected office, a new election should be held.

Start working on an amendment then.

This was also happening regardless of who won any election down there.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 3:24 pm to
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Because it’s irrelevant.

That’s the entire crux of the issue. Voters want to elect the Clerk of Court. Landry is saying no because he signed a law giving us a Clerk.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 3:24 pm to
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Landry is saying no because he signed a law giving us a Clerk.


Was that clerk not voted on ?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 3:24 pm to
you have been a mess since one of the clerk positions have been eliminated.


have you tried "speaking truth to power"? that usually works.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37364 posts
Posted on 5/13/26 at 3:25 pm to
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Voters want to elect the Clerk of Court.

They are in the streets just yearning to vote for Clerk. It’s the central issue in everyone’s lives.

Granted, the denizens of Orleans Parish DO have more interaction with the court and therefore the clerk than most of the rest of the state population.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 3:26 pm to
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a new election should be held.


Should? And who decides this? You?
Posted by Red Stick Rambler
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 3:26 pm to
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Every time the state legislature eliminates an office in response to the outcome of the election for that office and transfers the duties of the eliminated office to a different elected office, a new election should be held.


By "should" do you mean that a new election is your preferred outcome? Or that it's required by law?

Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 3:26 pm to
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what role does the New Orleans City Council have in calling elections for offices created by state law.

I’m wondering what role anyone in New Orleans has in even voting for this office. No one will answer why this position is not an appointed office.
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 3:27 pm to
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By "should" do you mean that a new election is your preferred outcome? Or that it's required by law?

I mean that’s the logical next step.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 3:28 pm to
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4cubbies


What is it you think the clerk of court actually does?
Posted by Red Stick Rambler
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 3:28 pm to
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That’s the entire crux of the issue. Voters want to elect the Clerk of Court. Landry is saying no because he signed a law giving us a Clerk.


No the entire crux of the issue is whether the New Orleans City Council has the authority to call an election to fill an office that was created by state law and which has an incumbent under state law.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 3:28 pm to
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Was that clerk not voted on ?


We elected a Clerk of Civil Court and a Clerk of Criminal Court.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 3:29 pm to
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I’m wondering what role anyone in New Orleans has in even voting for this office.


How was Chelsey Napoleon selected? Voting or appointment?

This says she was elected.
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