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re: After today.... All Never Trump people need to wake up.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 5:46 pm to minister of truth
Posted on 2/11/24 at 5:46 pm to minister of truth
No shite, Sherlock. As in “No shite, Detective Sherlock Holmes, very good observation. You may well be on to something there.”
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Posted on 2/11/24 at 6:10 pm to David_DJS
I think I like my definition of Cultists & TDS better. There are quite a few posters on this board, including myself, who have admitted that Trump made significant mistakes/errors of omission during his last term, but the TDS gang has Trump at 100% to blame despite him being attacked/roadblocked at every front throughout his entire term. Seriously has there ever been a president who was legally attacked, politically attacked, financially attacked, personally attacked (including family, cabinet appointees, and even supporters) and even attacked by his own party as much as Trump was? “Cultists” think that despite his shortcomings, Trump would be a better president than the Democrat opponent. TDS riddled posters would rather not vote or vote third-party. A third-party vote or refusal to vote in this election is worthless. Some posters with TDS make it obvious that they’re simply not voting for Trump because of personality dislikes.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 6:50 pm to minister of truth
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Seriously has there ever been a president who was legally attacked, politically attacked, financially attacked, personally attacked (including family, cabinet appointees, and even supporters) and even attacked by his own party as much as Trump was?
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but the TDS gang has Trump at 100% to blame despite him being attacked/roadblocked at every front throughout his entire term.
Answered your own question. By their own actions and words the TDS people you referenced give no real, legit thought to all the unprecedented attacks on Trump, the most egregious being law fare weaponized against him by the political competition who happens to be running the Justice Department right now. They CAN’T give any thought to those travesties of justice……there isn’t any time left in a day after they get all their Trump-hate angst out. The good news is that they are only a small, inconsequential minority, but a very vocal one.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 11:03 pm to minister of truth
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I think I like my definition of Cultists & TDS better.
Shocking, but do your definitions make any sense?
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There are quite a few posters on this board, including myself, who have admitted that Trump made significant mistakes/errors of omission during his last term ….. “Cultists” think that despite his shortcomings, Trump would be a better president than the Democrat opponent.
So I’m a cultist?
I’ve been told I have TDS hundreds of times but given your definition, I’m a cultist.
To the first part of what’s quoted above, in this thread what major mistakes have cultists besides me and roadgator acknowledged Trump made?
It’s been argued over and over in this thread that Trump could not have done anything different on COVID, is not accountable whatsoever for spending, and did not fail to finish the wall. What substantial mistakes are you referring to that you and others in this thread acknowledge Trump made?
Posted on 2/11/24 at 11:15 pm to David_DJS
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That's because you're a squishy conservative and soft.
Be detailed in your description.
Give examples with links.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 4:34 am to Laugh More
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Trump vs the radical left agenda and its clear as day day, more so than ever.
absolutely - I believe this really is an "existential moment" in our history.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 4:56 am to David_DJS
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So I’m a cultist?
I’ve been told I have TDS hundreds of times but given your definition, I’m a cultist.
Welcome! You'll be receiving your decoder ring & Trump poster. That's the point- it's a ridiculous overused & emotional attempt to discredit an argument/poster.
TDS on the other hand is real. I have seen it in my own family and multiple posters, such as Roger, Ronricks, Wild Tchoup, WaltWhitman, Denali4591 (probable alter), etc claim they are true conservatives or independents & acknowledgeable Biden is a terrible President, worse than Trump, yet still admit they'll either vote for Biden, sit out or vote 3rd party.
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It’s been argued over and over in this thread that Trump could not have done anything different on COVID, is not accountable whatsoever for spending, and did not fail to finish the wall. What substantial mistakes are you referring to that you and others in this thread acknowledge Trump made?
I'll just limit my discussion to these issues. It's a huge difference between what I have underlined above, that you're claiming is being argued, from what I have said and read from other Trump supporters. Even though he "failed" to finish the wall, COULD HAVE done some things differently in regards to Covid and WAS partially accountable for spending, he was able to accomplish quite plenty despite being battled every step and from every angle (to deny he wasn't attacked more consistently & vehemently then any other President in our lifetime is simply not reality). He would have had to become "literally Hitler" to get beyond all the attempts to derail him from the Left & Never Trumpers.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 4:58 am to minister of truth
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TDS on the other hand is real. I have seen it in my own family and multiple posters, such as Roger,
Ah yes, recognizing a carnival barker makes one have TDS.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 5:04 am to RogerTheShrubber
I saw it multiple times in your state (ER in Anchorage) with young, primarily females, complaining of chest pain and SOB on election night 2016 after the election was called for Trump. All psychosomatic.
And in regards to Alaska, it's sad how a state that once prided itself on being self sufficient and independent, has turned into a population that sucks off the teat of the federal government.
And in regards to Alaska, it's sad how a state that once prided itself on being self sufficient and independent, has turned into a population that sucks off the teat of the federal government.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 7:40 am to minister of truth
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or vote 3rd party
Is this a bad thing?
Posted on 2/12/24 at 11:23 am to minister of truth
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That's the point- it's a ridiculous overused & emotional attempt to discredit an argument/poster.
Of course. This is an anonymous internet message board focused on politics. "Cult" and "TDS" are ridiculous/overused and emotional attempts to discredit an argument/poster.
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TDS on the other hand is real.
lmao - is it, really? You name 3 or 4 posters you ridiculously and emotionally discredit because you think they have TDS, well, I can name more posters on the other side that are just as bad as them. In fact, just based on the threads I've participated in (may not be representative of the whole board), I'd say there are more "cult" type posters than "TDS" type posters that identify as conservatives or independents.
Either "cult" and "TDS" are ridiculous and overused, or neither of them are.
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It's a huge difference between what I have underlined above, that you're claiming is being argued, from what I have said and read from other Trump supporters.
Then you haven't read many threads on this board, including this one.
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Even though he "failed" to finish the wall, COULD HAVE done some things differently in regards to Covid and WAS partially accountable for spending, he was able to accomplish quite plenty despite being battled every step and from every angle (to deny he wasn't attacked more consistently & vehemently then any other President in our lifetime is simply not reality).
Who denies he wasn't attacked/impeded? Every president is, right?
What made Trump's presidency different was how consistently and effectively he was attacked/impeded by people he hired or otherwise worked for him. On the one hand, yeah - there's no doubt that impacted his presidency negatively, but on the other hand, isn't this also a failure of his?
And let's be clear about the failures you cite. We're not talking about small things or failing at the margin. We're talking about colossal failures, at least from a conservative perspective.
For example, it's not that Trump COULD HAVE done some things differently in regards to Covid (that sounds like "some people did something") - it's the Trump took the knee for Dems/the establishment as they ran the biggest scam in American history. Just one little nugget given harshly -
Donald Trump tried to get a Republican representative primaried because he spoke out against spending that, among all sorts of other Democrat things, provided $400 million for the states to cheat Donald Trump out of reelection.
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He would have had to become "literally Hitler" to get beyond all the attempts to derail him from the Left & Never Trumpers.
So?
How did all that great press he got for going soft work out for him?
This post was edited on 2/12/24 at 11:25 am
Posted on 2/12/24 at 11:34 am to minister of truth
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I think I like my definition of Cultists & TDS better.
Which is odd because a lot of Trump's issues/problems were self inflicted. Also, he hired people like Milley, Wray, Bolton etc. and let Dr. Fauci run wildly unfettered for months on end all the while the economy and supply chain was being destroyed. That's why I won't vote for Trump. He was a failure at doing the one thing he promised to do - drain the swamp. Trump talked a good game but when you actually look at it his results were mediocre. Not wanting more Milley's, Wray's and Bolton's in government doesn't mean someone has TDS it means they know someone who can't make good hires.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 2:29 pm to ronricks
So who gets your vote?
Posted on 2/12/24 at 2:30 pm to minister of truth
I see the ree ree thread is still going strong. 
Posted on 2/12/24 at 2:39 pm to Vacherie Saint
Yep. Wasted more time than I planned on
Posted on 2/12/24 at 2:50 pm to Corinthians420
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Corinthians420
This guy comes off as such a narscisistic personality in his posts. He thinks every one of you is stupid. Of COURSE, he only really rails against Trump, but "is going to vote independent". You are one aggravating type.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 3:11 pm to minister of truth
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I saw it multiple times in your state (ER in Anchorage)
Anchorage aint Alaska. Its a good hour away each direction
Posted on 2/12/24 at 3:27 pm to David_DJS
moreso than any President in our lifetime
perhaps on this board but not in reality. TDS is real. Again I have witnessed it multiple times present in the ER & in my own family. it's an irrational hatred of Trump in which the individual often cannot even give a specific reason for his/her hatred. How many times were stories on the internet/news about Trump supporters being attacked in public, run out of restaurants, mobbed in public etc? And the media fanned the flames. I don't ever recall a Trump "cultist" attacking someone, particularly a GOPe. TDS existed well before the "cult" terminology presented on this board, primarily to counter the TDS accusation
as expected you're downplaying this factor. I specifically stated in the post you replied to that Trump was attacked moreso than any President in our lifetime. I knew you would throw out the ole "all Presidents are attacked". Nowhere close to what Trump had to deal with.
and of course here you again subtly but predictably change the argument that Trump was responsible for the attacks on him. So only the people he hired "consistently and effectively" attacked him? That's why some posters claim you have TDS. You claim you accept that Trump had his successes but your posts place all responsibility on him.
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Either "cult" and "TDS" are ridiculous and overused, or neither of them are.
perhaps on this board but not in reality. TDS is real. Again I have witnessed it multiple times present in the ER & in my own family. it's an irrational hatred of Trump in which the individual often cannot even give a specific reason for his/her hatred. How many times were stories on the internet/news about Trump supporters being attacked in public, run out of restaurants, mobbed in public etc? And the media fanned the flames. I don't ever recall a Trump "cultist" attacking someone, particularly a GOPe. TDS existed well before the "cult" terminology presented on this board, primarily to counter the TDS accusation
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Who denies he wasn't attacked/impeded? Every president is, right?
as expected you're downplaying this factor. I specifically stated in the post you replied to that Trump was attacked moreso than any President in our lifetime. I knew you would throw out the ole "all Presidents are attacked". Nowhere close to what Trump had to deal with.
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What made Trump's presidency different was how consistently and effectively he was attacked/impeded by people he hired or otherwise worked for him. On the one hand, yeah - there's no doubt that impacted his presidency negatively, but on the other hand, isn't this also a failure of his?
and of course here you again subtly but predictably change the argument that Trump was responsible for the attacks on him. So only the people he hired "consistently and effectively" attacked him? That's why some posters claim you have TDS. You claim you accept that Trump had his successes but your posts place all responsibility on him.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 3:29 pm to RogerTheShrubber
well in reality that's true - as the saying goes: You have a great view of Alaska from Anchorage.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 3:35 pm to minister of truth
On a nice day, the view of the Aleutian volcanoes is spectacular though.. 
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