re: After today.... All Never Trump people need to wake up.

Truths:
-TDS is real with psychological and physical effects. Witnessed it from ER many times
- Roger has it big time. I respect many of his posts but not when it involves Trump/2024 election.
-if you think/feel it doesn’t matter who’s elected in 2024 (Denali) or voting 3rd party (Roger), then why are you still posting in this thread. Move on
-some of us are still holding on to the hope that there is still a small/ diminishing chance of saving our country by choosing Trump over Biden/Dims (only real choice in this election)
-if you don’t see/believe this country begin a death spiral during Obama’s term & accelerated during Biden’s term, then you won’t see it no matter what evidence is presented
-likewise, if you think Trump is part of the establishment/deep state, then don’t vote. As above, we’re done & therefore move on
-choosing a President is more than about the economy (even though it’s a significant factor). I like what Trump did with NATO (demanded other members pick up their share of funding), the Paris Climate Accord(got us out), ISIS/worldwide conflict significantly decreased during his term, border wall (was hampered every step- couldn’t get $5 billion but we’ve spent multiple times that on Ukraine), etc

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Of course not.

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Then you agree with me, and the guy you suggested was making good points, wasn't.

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Hopefully we don’t have another global pandemic his next term.

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I hope you don't think that's the only "existential threat" or "threat to democracy" or "healthcare emergency" the Dems/establishment can dream up. I mean you see their MO, right?

You better hope Trump has grown a spine, is what you need to be hoping for.

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This is incredibly disingenuous. He fought very hard for that wall. You are rewarding the actions of the left and the Rinos. that put up every roadblock they could. You certainly aren’t a leftist or a RINO, so the only explanation for you rewarding them is it comes from an emotional response

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You've got this backwards.

Suggesting I'm rewarding the Left or Rinos for anything is emotional AF.

I'm actually like Trump is in his business world. He's logical and cutthroat, no excuses. If some VP in the Trump group promises a project on time and at/under budget, but the project ends up being 24 months late and 50% above budget, do you think Trump is going to sit around listening to all the excuses? frick no, he won't. He'll fire the dude based on results, and in fact would have at about the 3rd month of overrun.

Trump promised to finish the wall. He had a Republican congress to work with. He had the backing of rank/file Republicans and more in the Center and on the Left than people understand. And he didn't get it done. Fact. Logic. Zero emotion. He's fired.

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Trump promised to finish the wall. He had a Republican congress to work with. He had the backing of rank/file Republicans and more in the Center and on the Left than people understand. And he didn't get it done. Fact. Logic. Zero emotion. He's fired.

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Trump's Director of Legislative Affairs while Republicans had complete control was a Koch brothers, chamber of commerce, open borders, Pence guy.

But Trump fought really hard for a wall.

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He said he fought really hard for a wall.

All that matters to the cult.

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Who has time to actually do stuff when there are celebrities wanting criminals pardoned?

Also a little off topic but Jjdoc being back is amusing. He must have been running low on his Trump Bucks.

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Whiny nonsense.

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That would be suggesting Trump has been “fired.”

He wasn’t. Sorry man, but that’s the facts we have to deal with. You don’t seem to be doing well. Rage on!

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That would be suggesting Trump has been “fired.”

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Did you ever see his TV show? It was a play on his famous line.

So relax, nobody is raging - but you sure seem to need to find people with an opposing POV emotional. I wonder why.

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Did you ever see his TV show? It was a play on his famous line.

So relax, nobody is raging - but you sure seem to need to find people with an opposing POV emotional. I wonder why.

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Good lord. You are a fricking dull person aren’t you?

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Then you agree with me, and the guy you suggested was making good points, wasn't.

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good lord. He had responded to multiple posters and has made many good points. It’s not all about you.

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I hope you don't think that's the only "existential threat" or "threat to democracy" or "healthcare emergency" the Dems/establishment can dream up. I mean you see their MO, right?

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So they will fo something not matter what? And apathy about the Republican nominee is your solution? Brilliant!!!

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You've got this backwards. Suggesting I'm rewarding the Left or Rinos for anything is emotional AF.

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It’s precisely what you’re doing. Who are the harshest and most consistent critics of Trump? Leftists, Rinos, and people like you. You’re throwing tantrums just like the left does.

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good lord. He had responded to multiple posters and has made many good points. It’s not all about you.

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What were his good points?

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And apathy about the Republican nominee is your solution? Brilliant!!!

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What? Where could you have possibly pulled this little nugget from in my posting?

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It’s precisely what you’re doing.

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No, it's not. OMG OMG you're being emotional!!!

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Who are the harshest and most consistent critics of Trump? Leftists, Rinos, and people like you.

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This is retarded, unless you're also acknowledging that you're part of a racist movement. After all, David Duke is a Trump superfan.

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You’re throwing tantrums just like the left does.

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Where have the adults gone? Seriously, when did the American Right become so f'n emotional?

Honest question - in your view, is it possible to disagree with Trump or be critical of his work without being emotional?