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re: Africa was better off under European colonial rule - change my mind

Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:36 pm to
Posted by AU86
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:36 pm to
No argument here. Just take a look at Zimbabwe and S. Africa.
Posted by Hayekian serf
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:37 pm to
I’d rather ask an African
Posted by AU86
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:42 pm to
Relate/Compare those African nations with US cities (inner cities) and what do you see? See any correlation?
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 8:45 pm
Posted by GeorgeWest
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:43 pm to
OP doesn't believe in freedom?
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:46 pm to
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destroyed Africa


Yeah, European colonization really did a number on those mud huts
Posted by Speckhunter2012
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:51 pm to
quote:

European colonialism destroyed Africa. Change my mind.


European Colonialism destroyed North and South America too, eh?

Before that, Asian Colonialism destroyed Europe.
About the same time, Mayan Colonialism destroyed Central America while Islamic Colonialism destroyed Southern Europe. The Northmen and Saxon's Colonialism destroyed Roman Britain while the Roman Colonialism destroyed Celtic Briton.

Why are these other parts of the world doing better than most of Africa?

It wasn't Colonialism as much as it's all the Free Money, Economic Support and Outside Intervention they are currently receiving that is keeping Africa down now.

LINK

Hiiraan Online - News and Info about Somalia.
Many other sources if you dare to look and learn.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:57 pm to
The worst thing Africans did was buy into the notion of the nation-state. Africa is better being governed by tribal chiefs.
Posted by Pigimus Prime
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:58 pm to
Have you ever been to an African country?
Posted by Bulldogblitz
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:59 pm to
Man..wakanda the most advanced society...0.0 whites.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:01 pm to
Africa was exploited by colonial rulers.

Now they are exploited by home rulers.

Colonial rulers took the valuable resources and got rich while the home people were left with little to nothing.

Now home rulers take the valuable resources and get rich while the home people are left with little to nothing.

It’s unfortunate.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:06 pm to
But not under Marxist Rule.

Haile Selassie’s Grandson Warns African Americans: Marxism Leads to Enslavement.

Haile Selassie has been in buried in the memory hole: A Forgotten Black Christian Hero Who Fought Fascists and Communists for Christ….



A Christian Soldier for Freedom

Emperor Haile Selassie was a pivotal figure for Ethiopia and the whole of Africa. He implemented crucial reforms such as a written constitution and land reform to accelerate agricultural development. He was world-renowned for his defense of his people from Italian imperialism. In 1963, his creation of the Organization of African Unity sowed the seeds for solidarity and liberation of African nations from colonial rule. Here’s historic footage from Selaissie’s dogged anti-fascist resistance against Mussolini’s invaders:

VIDEO: Ethiopians Defend Village From Italian Bombarded

Today our corporate media act as self-appointed gatekeepers of African history. So it is telling that so few young Americans have even heard of Emperor Haile Selassie. They don’t learn of his outsized role in defeating fascism and colonialism in Africa. Why not? Because Emperor Selassie was a staunch defender of Christianity, a symbol of patriarchy, and was murdered by socialists promising democracy.

The Left Wants to Kill All the Fathers

In a now deleted Statement of Beliefs, the corporate press-lauded organization Black Lives Matter declared:

quote:

“We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and ‘villages’ that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.”


As a devout Christian emperor, Emperor Haile Selassie was a symbol of fatherhood in Africa. All radical groups, at heart, are driven by envy and a hatred for natural hierarchies. The Marxists who tortured and murdered an elderly Emperor Selassie in 1974 were simply living up to their global creed: Kill strong fathers first, then loot the people.

The Same Marxist Playbook

This was nothing new. The Soviets who backed Selassie’s overthrow followed the same twisted religious playbook they’d used in their own country. The Bolsheviks used the disaster of World War I as the pretext to murder Tsar Nicholas II’s family — not sparing a single young child — and take over Russia. All the evils the revolutionaries complained about under the monarch got worse tenfold. Famine, stolen land, violent prisons, police abuse … every one of these horrors abounded in the quest for Utopia.

….Prince Ermias Selassie recounts a similar formula for the revolutionaries in Ethiopia. “They closed all the churches, executions were very rampant. But it didn’t fare well for the Marxists. I mean, they never got the support of the people,” he said:

VIDEO: Emperor Haile Selassie, Marxism, and Monarchy | A Conversation with Prince Ermias Sahle Selassie…..

Media Whitewash of Socialist Crimes and Famines

Today, Western media continue to sell a whitewashed view of African history that diminishes the voices of African heroes like Emperor Haile Selassie. Outlets like the New York Times live up to their legacy of covering up the crimes of Marxists. Remember that the Times denied the ghastly Holdomor genocide in Ukraine, which resulted in 12 million deaths. These media amplify voices that celebrate the same anti-market, anti-freedom, anti-family sentiments that fueled the murder of Emperor Selassie.

The press does all this under the guise of social justice. Yet the only slavery most writers will condemn are instances that took place 400 years ago. Meanwhile, they openly campaign for a candidate like Vice President Joe Biden.

With Obama, Biden launched the destruction of another independent African country, Libya. They yawned at the unleashing of a modern slave trade in that country. Indeed, the New York Times used its pages to push the public for war in Libya. As it did in Syria. Millions of people of color have been displaced, dismembered, and killed as a result of these “progressive” interventions backed by War Party Democrats and Republicans alike….

This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 9:08 pm
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:07 pm to
Eh, the average African was no better or worse. The Europeans extracted the resources and out down threats to their influence but largely left the population to deal with their own squabbles that didnt involve them.
Posted by Drizzt
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:14 pm to
So a stable food supply and some measure of stability was just totally overrated? Ask Zimbabweans if their life has changed the last 40 years.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:16 pm to
You forgot Stage 3: The Chinese take all of the natural resources and get rich while the home people are left with nothing.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 9:17 pm
Posted by Bonespurrs
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:20 pm to
Slaves were happy right? That’s why they sang.
Posted by Pigimus Prime
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:21 pm to
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:22 pm to
Ask those African tribes that sold them into it.
Posted by Pigimus Prime
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:22 pm to
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Zimbabweans


Which European country ruled them 40
years ago? Or is the argument simply that a white minority should rule anyone and everyone?
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:22 pm to
That sort of thing never reached the average citizen. The Europeans did virtually nothing for the majority of the populations who still lived in abject poverty and misery.

I'm not saying they're better off without them, they just aren't much worse off.
Posted by mightyMick
Member since Aug 2018
3067 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:18 pm to
The Congo was ruled by the French.
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