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re: Active Marines - Have Women in the Infantry Had a Negative Impact on the USMC?

Posted on 3/28/24 at 12:23 pm to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/28/24 at 12:23 pm to
As long as FAP is an option, we'll be fine...
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 3/28/24 at 12:23 pm to
The regular ICOMBATVP stuff you screen for. I would pass on a lot of ppl with issues and think I only had 1 bumed. I prepped my kids too where I never had any processing issues. I also didn’t have genesis and had solid applicants to deal with.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 3/28/24 at 12:25 pm to
How do Israeli female fighters do? Haven’t they had women in combat for awhile?
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80341 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 12:25 pm to
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I also didn’t have genesis and had solid applicants to deal with.


There were two primary antagonists my recruiters had to contend with:

1. Guidance counselors at MEPS rewriting contracts, then blaming the recruiter.

2. Dr. Wong (USAREC Surgeon General) misdiagnosing and disqualifying deps.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71505 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 12:26 pm to
Well they don’t train like we do. Our military is also retarded and still run when we have vehicles. Don’t get me wrong the military should run and be fit but they do a lot of unnecessary bullshite that breaks everyone.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71505 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 12:29 pm to
The one that comes to mind is a stud wanted to be a marine knew him my first two year and when he turned 17 he went to MEPS. He could see fine but somehow pdq, however the army was fine with it. I almost tried to have him join the army dep and then switch to see if it would work but we never did and the kid didn’t join any branch.

I like how we send kids on open contract. We literally do not make any promises and sell on intangibles which helps us a lot too. I gave away like 2 bonuses in 3 years. We didn’t have them and I didn’t need them but if a contract had one I’d hook it up.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80341 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 12:31 pm to
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I like how we send kids on open contract. We literally do not make any promises and sell on intangibles which helps us a lot too. I gave away like 2 bonuses in 3 years. We didn’t have them and I didn’t need them but if a contract had one I’d hook it up.


I don't know if the Army still does it, but I remember a system in use called FSR2S that could lock in a contract for 7 days (of course that didn't stop the Senior Guidance Counselor from breaking that at MEPS)
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
3051 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 12:31 pm to
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It was a male major general


No one is going to be a high-ranking general, and certainly not a general who gets to talk to the press, if they don't spout the preferred talking points. That's how they get to be a general, these days.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 3/28/24 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

USMC general made a comment along the lines of:

“Many people outside of the USMC thought this would have a negative impact, and to none of our surprise, we met the challenge and we’re better for it.”


Obviously he has to say that
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80341 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 12:36 pm to
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No one is going to be a high-ranking general, and certainly not a general who gets to talk to the press, if they don't spout the preferred talking points. That's how they get to be a general, these days.


The current Army Chief of Staff, when he was the I Corps Commander, famously responded to a question asking what if his policies conflict with Governor Inslee by saying "JBLM is a military base. I have the final say here, not the governor."
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50155 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 12:51 pm to
He is not telling the truth. My son was a combat engineer from 2016 to 2020. Women in the infantry were a problem. Women could not cut it in combat engineering, but standards were being lowered to try to get them in. Awful. Absolutely awful policy.
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2022
4747 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 12:52 pm to
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It was a male major general

Who wants to make lieutenant general
Posted by BayouBaw84
Thibodaux
Member since Oct 2016
1174 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 12:54 pm to
Women in any workforce dominated by men is a bad thing.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72127 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 12:55 pm to
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Women could not cut it in combat engineering, but standards were being lowered to try to get them in.


If your son is a Marine, this is bullshite.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80341 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 12:58 pm to
Wasn't there an interview with a Marine Captain that was completely against women in combat roles and proceeded to detail how being a combat engineer made her infertile?
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2022
4747 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 12:58 pm to
Women in combat arms makes us objectively weaker and worse at fighting, whether it's one woman or an entire regiment. It's only a matter of degree. There is absolutely not one single shred of evidence that can or will ever demonstrate that women make us more lethal and better at fighting. Not one. All we get are vague generalities like "diversity of thought and viewpoints" makes us stronger, which is impossible to quantify and therefore impossible to argue against.

So, yes. We are worse now than we were before. It's impossible to argue otherwise.
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2022
4747 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 12:59 pm to
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How do Israeli female fighters do? Haven’t they had women in combat for awhile?

They take really good pictures for propaganda
Posted by BamaMamaof2
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2019
2392 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 1:02 pm to
My Dad retired as a Major in Marines, he supported his daughters in every way, but he was also very clear with us about the reality of life.

He basically told us that men are stronger than women, men don't get twisted up over emotional things, men have higher endurance, can work thru pain and for you Marines he had some words to say about the BAM in his unit.

In case you don't know a BAM is, it's a broad assed Marine.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72127 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 1:04 pm to
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
19549 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 1:08 pm to
"frick you pussy, I'm an 11B you fricking POG!'

"Just put the fries in the bag ma'me"


Sounds the same either way.
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