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ACLU sues Police Bureau for live-streaming video of courthouse proteste

Posted on 7/31/20 at 7:46 am
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/31/20 at 7:46 am
So filming cops is ok, cops filming rioters is not ok, brilliant.


The American Civil Liberties Union of Oregon on Wednesday filed a lawsuit against the Portland Police Bureau, challenging its livestreaming of protests.

The ACLU contends the bureau’s practice of filming and broadcasting protesters violates state law that prohibits police from collecting or maintaining information about the political, religious or social views, associations or activities of people who are not suspected of criminal activity.

The livestream has been one of dozens of livestreams of nightly demonstrations in Portland. The Police Bureau put a link to its livestream on its Twitter feed three times this month.

“Unlawful police surveillance threatens our First Amendment rights,” said Jann Carson, interim executive director of the ACLU of Oregon. “The Portland Police Bureau has no constitutional reason to train its video cameras on demonstrators — or to broadcast those images publicly on the internet, where federal agents and others can analyze them.”

The suit also is on behalf of an unidentified protester who was caught on the police streaming footage while demonstrating outside the police union office in North Portland on July 13, according to the suit. LINK
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32512 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 7:47 am to
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state law that prohibits police from collecting or maintaining information about the political, religious or social views, associations or activities of people who are not suspected of criminal activity.


Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
19349 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 7:47 am to
"use their rules against them"

part of the communist handbook
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421743 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 7:47 am to
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state law that prohibits police from collecting or maintaining information about the political, religious or social views, associations or activities of people who are not suspected of criminal activity.

that's an interesting interpretation

there is one thing in the legal profession that grinds my gears and it's attorneys who seek to be overly clever. it really fricks up case law
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 7:56 am to
Once upon a time the ACLU was a noble entity, it is now time for it to go away as that is no longer the case.
Posted by RebelExpress38
In your base, killin your dudes
Member since Apr 2012
13503 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 7:58 am to
So are we going to ban Dash Cams now? If they interpret the law this strictly then dash cams and body cams will be illegal. They can’t have it both ways.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139794 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 7:58 am to
Did you take off your commie hat? Nice.
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 8:00 am to
I guess cameras taking license plate numbers on public servitude going into a neighborhood on a public street is legal?

Information gathered from that at times is given to police?

I guess most of the ACLU lawyers live in areas like this or buildings with cameras that the view extends to public side walks which that information can be given to police?

How about letting private citizens take videos of the protest and if they choose to give it to other private citizens who give it to the police would that be a loophole?

This opens a huge can of worms.

Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 7/31/20 at 8:03 am to
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
9914 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 8:06 am to
All the ACLU Oregon members should have thy tongues ripped out and hung on a clothes line...
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73424 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 8:07 am to
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So are we going to ban Dash Cams now? If they interpret the law this strictly then dash cams and body cams will be illegal. They can’t have it both ways.
The serial downvoter disagrees.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45710 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 8:11 am to
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All the ACLU Oregon members should have thy tongues ripped out and hung on a clothes line...
I wouldn't dry them out on a clothes line. Why waste perfectly good catfish bait?
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28791 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 8:14 am to
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So are we going to ban Dash Cams now?

Body cams need to be banned as well.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134845 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 8:14 am to
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that's an interesting interpretation

there is one thing in the legal profession that grinds my gears and it's attorneys who seek to be overly clever. it really fricks up case law

If that's the case then every surveillance camera on a police station is illegal
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 8:15 am to
The ACLU was founded by a known communist.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40047 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 8:24 am to
“We don’t want to see the truth.......and we damn sure don’t want the public to see it”
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30022 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 8:26 am to
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Once upon a time the ACLU was a noble entity


When was this? They'd take a case every now and then (Skokie,Illinois Nazi case) to give themselves the veneer of impartiality. Now, they don't even try to hide it. Where were they during the massive trampling of rights during this Chinese Flu farce?
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
22072 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 8:26 am to
Rioters: We demand that our voices are heard!

*live stream riots*

Rioters: Stop violating our privacy!!
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7855 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 8:33 am to
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So are we going to ban Dash Cams now? If they interpret the law this strictly then dash cams and body cams will be illegal. They can’t have it both ways.

Why I come here. Your take is brilliant, but also obvious. One would expect investigative journalists to conclude this, but alas, I instead read it from an Ole Miss fan.

Well done, sir.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89483 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 8:37 am to
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Unlawful police surveillance threatens our First Amendment rights


Public places are filmed by everything, all the time. Joe Blow with his iPhone, the ATM cameras, the security cameras at the bank and CVS.

There is no reasonable expectation of privacy or that you will not be filmed in public places in 2020. The only real questions would be about commercial use of your likeness, but police should just post signs and make announcements (WE ARE FILMING THIS ACTIVITY FOR EVERYONE'S COMFORT AND SAFETY!). Boom. Solved.
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