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re: Abraham's letter to Rispone

Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:08 pm to
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:08 pm to
Any republican. Get a run off and vote for whoever is in the run off as republican. Anyone but JBE.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:08 pm to
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The only relevant question is whether he missed any votes on which his presence would have changed the result. Any of those?


So, his vote only matters if it was tied?
Posted by The Rodfather
I'm not really sure?
Member since Nov 2008
3941 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:09 pm to
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..it's exactly why men like Cong. Clay Higgins have decided to step up publicly for Abraham.


Is it though? Other side of the coin for a minute here. (really there are more than two sides to this coin).

Things to consider:

1) People (politicians to an even greater extent), like to "pick" the winner. People do this because they want to feel good, it feels good when your guy wins. Politicians do it so they can earn some "points" when the guy is elected. They know enough about Rispone to know that he won't give a shite about "political points", he only wants the state to be what it should have always been and succeed. Therefore whether you pulled for him or not, he will only care about you doing your job and getting things done. The two sides to this is 1) he can't be "bought" through money or favors (at least that is the impression he pushes and the people that have known him say), 2) Abraham is in "their circle" and had the "better" chance to win so they align with him. Have you noticed since Abraham was over taken in the polls, the bigger name political endorsement stopped...

2) Could it be that the outsider scares the living shite out of the establishment? Maybe LAGOP has been spreading around that GOP politicians and Lobby groups were not allowed to endorse Rispone. Maybe they were told to either endorse both, Abraham, or no one... I'm not a tinfoil hat guy, but I have heard grumblings of this and it does tend to make sense when viewing LA politics. Especially with the vast majority of Rispone's endorsements being businesses and non-political figures...

I tend to lean more toward #1, but #2 doesn't seem far fetched.

The idea that Rispone's ad pushed politicians to endorse Abraham doesn't hold water with me. It seems IF it is the case, it is more an indirect cause based on #1. i.e. they saw Abraham ahead in the current polls + the possible negative reaction to the ad, so they picked who they thought "would win". After the debates and recent polls I would say that was a miscalculation. (maybe that is why they dried up)
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22705 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:10 pm to
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Ralph Abraham is demonstrating exactly what leadership looks like. This is outstanding and exactly what our state needs now more than ever.


to me it demonstrates nervousness
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
13511 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:11 pm to
I do believe Abraham jumping the gun and calling for President Trump to step down (in so many words) during one of the DNC plots against him was a huge mistake.

That's not something people will forget.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:16 pm to
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Abraham should do the state a solid and withdraw.

Lulz

Abraham is running in 2nd place. Both he and Rispone know this. Otherwise Phony Rispone wouldn't savagely attacked the 3rd place guy for actually giving money to charity, right?

Lulz
Posted by ExtraGravy
Member since Nov 2018
794 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

Ralph Abraham is demonstrating exactly what leadership looks like. This is outstanding and exactly what our state needs now more than ever.


haha, well Abraham released this publicly to score points against Rispone.

What this letter tells me is that Abraham has read internal polling showing he and Rispone are in a statistical tie, that Rispone's attacks are dragging Abraham down, and that his best shot is an attempt to shame Rispone into stopping- or, failing that, release his letter publicly and hope that gets him a few votes for appearing to be "the bigger person."

So, not much has changed between Rispone and Abraham. Ironically I thought the new sexual harassment attack ad against Edwards was very effective. Ironic in that neither of the Republican candidates in the race had the energy or money to come up with it, because they are spending all of theirs against each other. The ad was very cleverly calibrated to chip away support from people who might be inclined to vote for Edwards. Yet Rispone and Abraham are in a pitched battle with each other and keep drawing attention back to their own fight with each other. Right now, they are only concerned with chipping away Republican votes from each other. Maybe they feel they have no choice.
Posted by lsursb
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
11630 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:20 pm to
I know people on this board think it is a foregone conclusion that Rispone is going to finish 2nd and Abraham a distant third. I think it is going to be very close. The get out the vote events that Abraham has been doing across the state have been well attended. The early voting numbers in his district and across north Louisiana have been pretty impressive and I would think highly favor him. It will come down to get out the vote efforts and with Abraham having the endorsement of the majority of Parish GOP chapters, I think he has a slight advantage in getting his voters to the polls. Again...it's going to be close for 2nd/3rd. Whoever makes the run-off has my support.
Posted by The Rodfather
I'm not really sure?
Member since Nov 2008
3941 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:21 pm to
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So by Eddie’s definition, Eddie will be a career politician if he wins because he will have to serve a 4-year term.


Not true. A career politician is someone that is making or changing their career to that of a politician.

I don't see Rispone running for any other office or becoming a DC lobbyist after he is Governor. I do see Abraham continuing to run for other offices.

It is kind of interesting that once the numbers started coming out about population loss in LA and how it may effect our EC votes, Abraham decided that what LA needs is him as Governor. We may lose a Rep 3 straight times? With Abraham's District being so very rural and spread out it would be a prime district for redrawing / dropping. Maybe Abraham was getting nervous his new career would be cut short?

Career Politician is also a mindset. Allow me to submit example #1
Posted by dixiechick
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:22 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/1/20 at 8:29 am
Posted by The Rodfather
I'm not really sure?
Member since Nov 2008
3941 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:26 pm to
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So, his vote only matters if it was tied?


EXACTLY. What I hear every time his camp says something like this or that his "vote wouldn't have mattered", is are you trying to say that you don't believe your job you were elected for "matters"?

You were elected to do a job. The primary objective of your job is showing up and voting. You say your missed votes didn't matter. You are saying that your job does not matter! Either someone else should be doing it or we don't need that job. Which is a good thing for him seeing how we may be losing a district due to Honor Code driving our population away.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14513 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:27 pm to
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Not true. A career politician is someone that is making or changing their career to that of a politician.

I don't see Rispone running for any other office or becoming a DC lobbyist after he is Governor. I do see Abraham continuing to run for other offices.


Dude, c'mon. That is super weak.

Abraham is in office 4 years, and continues his medical practice CAREER POLITICIAN!!!!!

Rispone would be governor for 4 years and probably another 4 after that. Would still own his business but would be put in a blind trust. NOT a CAREER POLITICIAN!!!

Be serious. Neither are career politician. Both have had very successful careers outside of politics and now have decided to try and give back by making things better. Good for both of them.

Posted by The Rodfather
I'm not really sure?
Member since Nov 2008
3941 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:28 pm to
I agree with most of what you are saying.


But,
quote:

because they are spending all of theirs against each other.


Correction, only one is "spending all" their money.
Posted by The Rodfather
I'm not really sure?
Member since Nov 2008
3941 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

Abraham is in office 4 years, and continues his medical practice CAREER POLITICIAN!!!!!


How could that be true? I thought he couldn't practice while serving in Congress. That is what he told all of us at least...
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164339 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

Abraham is running in 2nd place.

No he’s not. Rispone has all the momentum and has blown by him. This is Abraham trying to plug the ship.
Posted by lsursb
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
11630 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:50 pm to
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How could that be true? I thought he couldn't practice while serving in Congress. That is what he told all of us at least...


This is why idiots keep being elected in Louisiana. Voters here have to be the most gullible people in the country. They literally believe anything they hear without investigating a thing. He made the pledge in his first election that he would donate his congressional salary to St. Jude's and veterans support groups. He planned to continue practicing medicine part-time and keep his local clinics open with partners, etc. and live on that income. He was notified that making a profit off of private business enterprises such as his medical practice were not allowed for congressional members. He still fulfilled the promise for his first 2 years where he donated his entire congressional salary. He did not publicly make the same promise for future elections although they claim it was still quoted on his website site for sometime before removed. He has since donated profits from the medical practice and personally. St. Jude's representatives and different veterans groups have stated publicly that he and his wife have donated "tens of thousands of dollars" annually" every year he has served. He volunteers his time flying veterans (including the neighbor i grew up next door to) to receive cancer treatments in Houston and New Orleans free of charge. This information has been clearly reported and people still parrot the same misleading points.
Posted by Old Character
Member since Jan 2018
873 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:53 pm to
Anyone who speaks in dooms day predictions is, in my opinion, full of shite. Repub or dem.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:54 pm to
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Rispone has all the momentum and has blown by him

Then he's an idiot, and doesn't belong anywhere near the governors mansion! Who blows good money on attacking, and continuing to attack the man running in last place? No one does that. Ever.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28497 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:55 pm to
Maybe if they would have allowed better Republican candidates in their place they wouldn't be so worried.
This post was edited on 10/4/19 at 12:56 pm
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

"You and I both know that Louisiana cannot afford another four years of John Bel Edwards.


Exactly. Therefore, Abraham should drop out and support Rispone.
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