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Abraham Lincoln, 1838: hauntingly prescient about modern, statist America
Posted on 10/21/21 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 10/21/21 at 12:58 pm
Some of you have wondered how the American people could let the govt do what it currently does. With covid, with debt, with erosion of private rights.
Here’s your answer
This post was edited on 10/21/21 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 10/21/21 at 1:01 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Sorry I can’t look at you or take you remotely serious without seeing a broken, disheartened, loser of a man.
Posted on 10/21/21 at 1:02 pm to td01241
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Sorry I can’t look at you or take you remotely serious without seeing a broken, disheartened, loser of a man.
This
Posted on 10/21/21 at 1:07 pm to td01241
I’m sorry you feel that way. I am doing better and still pushing myself even more
Hopefully I can regain some lost ground on here so that great discussion of politics can be possible with fellow posters
Hopefully I can regain some lost ground on here so that great discussion of politics can be possible with fellow posters
Posted on 10/21/21 at 1:15 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Why do you always change the title of your threads?
Posted on 10/21/21 at 1:16 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The quoted POS is part of the reason this government has become what it is
Posted on 10/21/21 at 1:18 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Probably from people being broken by an America first President.
Posted on 10/21/21 at 1:24 pm to DallasTiger11
I disagree with your views of Abraham Lincoln.
He could have been a lot more vengeful towards the south
He was a remarkably prudent and restrained man in the darkest hours of our republic
He could have been a lot more vengeful towards the south
He was a remarkably prudent and restrained man in the darkest hours of our republic
Posted on 10/21/21 at 1:25 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Some of you have wondered how the American people could let the govt do what it currently does.
I haven't wondered... It is pussies like you that have brought us to this point... Broken pussies like you...
Posted on 10/21/21 at 1:27 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
HHTM I support you baw, this is like 5th grade on here
Posted on 10/21/21 at 1:28 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Thank you, Tim. We appreciate the work you're doing at The Bulwark.
Of course Lincoln was himself responsible for the first major shift in our Nation away from its founding ideals. Many believe he ushered in a new republic entirely.
Of course Lincoln was himself responsible for the first major shift in our Nation away from its founding ideals. Many believe he ushered in a new republic entirely.
Posted on 10/21/21 at 1:29 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Lincoln was a statist tyrant
Posted on 10/21/21 at 1:31 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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He could have been a lot more vengeful towards the south
He wanted reconciliation with no animosity. Charles Sumner and the Radical Republicans had other plans. The post-Civil War economic warfare known as Reconstruction would not have happened under Abraham Lincoln.
This post was edited on 10/21/21 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 10/21/21 at 1:32 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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He could have been a lot more vengeful towards the south
Such a peaceful gentle giant he was that he had no problem sending well over a half a million human beings to die a violent and bloody death just to keep a ragtag band of states together and solve an issue over countries solved peacefully without firing a single shot.
Abe Lincoln is the father of the massive blob we know as today modern American government. Such an embarrassment he's the first GOP President.
Posted on 10/21/21 at 1:33 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
When this was written, america was looked upon as the pinnacle of political and economic freedom. To be fair, he has a lot to do with the events and federal overreach leading up to, and during, the civil war that soured a lot of international perception of America.
Posted on 10/21/21 at 1:40 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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I am doing better and still pushing myself even more
Keep doing this. Respect is earned. Respect lost requires diligence and strength to regain. I believe you have it in you.
Thicken your skin. Sometimes callousness is required in the fight. Just ask Donald Trump. Disregard the tweets and look at the results. Results lost due to corruption and the weakness of the observers.
Nietzsche was wrong. It is OK to become a monster on occasion when fighting monsters. That is our world now. Sad but true. A total victory is the only option at this point. Leaving a few cancerous cells leads to a mortal outcome.
This post was edited on 10/21/21 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 10/21/21 at 1:41 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Well, he would know. He was instrumental in getting us here.
Posted on 10/21/21 at 1:43 pm to kingbob
I wasn’t aware that freeing 20% of America from govt-backed bondage is “statist”
Posted on 10/21/21 at 1:45 pm to Gr8t8s
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To be fair, he has a lot to do with the events and federal overreach leading up to, and during, the civil war that soured a lot of international perception of America.
This. He should have allowed states their right to peacefully secede. I think had he done that, eventually the union would have come back together once certain issues got resolved on their own peaceful time frame.
Posted on 10/21/21 at 1:45 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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I wasn’t aware that freeing 20% of America from govt-backed bondage is “statist”
That was not worth the hefty price tag it carried in human lives and decades of upheaval and generational consequences it produced.
And we're still feeling those consequences today.
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