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re: A Question For the "Israel Dragged us in" Crowd

Posted on 3/18/26 at 1:16 am to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63480 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 1:16 am to
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And im sure you realize Shia Islam is far more conservative than Sunni?


What do you mean by this?
Posted by bostitch
Member since Apr 2016
790 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 3:00 am to
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Until FDR allowed/provoked the japs into bombing pearl harbor?


Fixed it
This post was edited on 3/18/26 at 3:00 am
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24806 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 3:11 am to
No one actually believes that. Its just something to say when you are on the complete wrong side of history.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49481 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 3:26 am to
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Just asking.

To compete the comparison - you should state that Germany still hated the USA more than they did France, and manically attacked our own citizens and interests across the globe - accounting for thousands of American deaths.

Add in a half century of barbaric treatment toward any of their own citizens who did not 'convert' to their abhorrent dictates - degrading their women, raping their children, murdering any noncompliant males, etc. etc.

Also, they worked with any and all of our global antagonists, funding terrorist groups in any region that did not ally with them.

Plus, they stank to high hell.
This post was edited on 3/18/26 at 3:28 am
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49481 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 3:34 am to
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Netanyahu has been framing Iran as an existential threat for decades and pushing for confrontation long before March of this year. Yet we were actually making progress with Iran right up until he was allowed to come and cry to US Congress.

bull fukcing shite

Iran HAS been an existential threat to any non-radical muslim goat fuker for a half century - and HAS been working to destroy the "great satan" (US) for that entire time, carrying out and/or funding terrorist groups to do their dirty work.

NOT just Israel - but your jew-hatred has blinded your eyes and eaten away your humanity - unless you were born that way as are the current radical islamists in Iran.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49481 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 3:42 am to
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I just hope and pray this latest military operation works out great for the Persian people who seek freedom and for the American people

and this should be the prayers of all honorable people who are hoping to rid the entire planet of this intolerable regime - an regime that was unelected, had been repressing any remnants of their once normal citizenry and turning them into nothing more than hostages.

And FUKC YOU to Obama and his evil handlers who have been supporting these terrorist with sympathetic policies and monetary bribes and companionship in destroying Israel.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12008 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 4:05 am to
Trump told us we destroyed Iran’s nuclear infrastructure just last year. Then magically Iran was “two weeks away” from having a nuclear weapon all the sudden again

Was Trump lying? Look at a map. Who is closer to Iran? The United States or Israel? Do you really think Iran was “two weeks” away from being able to deliver a nuclear weapon to NYC or DC?

Btw we’ve been hearing Iran is “two weeks away” from a nuclear arsenal since the late 1990’s. At what point do intelligent people stop believing this ridiculous propaganda? Iran is and will always be Israel’s problem. Not ours. No American should give two shits what happens to Israel over the United States. Let Israel play Warhawk in that region if they want wasting their time, money, and lives.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13179 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 7:46 am to
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Was Trump lying?


Yes, almost certainly. I don't know why those of you with IDS think this is some sort of gotcha.

Yes, it's almost a certainty that Trump did what he always does, which is brag and overstate the case. It doesn't take Phillip Marlow or Sherlock Holmes to crack that case; it's what Trump does about everything.

Guess what? The tariffs he says the same sorts of things about aren't succeeding the way he says they are. We aren't making the amount of progress he says we are with deporting illegals. We haven't really eliminated government waste and fraud the way he claims.

THIS.

IS.

WHAT.

TRUMP.

DOES.

If you haven't figured out after 10+ years how he communicates I don't know what to tell you. He ALWAYS overstates the case.

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Look at a map. Who is closer to Iran? The United States or Israel? Do you really think Iran was “two weeks” away from being able to deliver a nuclear weapon to NYC or DC?


This is where you IDS people really display stupidity. Are you telling me that you would be willing to allow Iran to detonate nuclear weapons anywhere, as long as it wasn't on American soil?

Are you really that stupid? Can you really not connect the dots to understand that if that happened, the US would get puled into a much larger problem with much larger stakes?

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No American should give two shits what happens to Israel over the United States.


Yeah, you're really that stupid.

You guys really sound just like the left back in 2016-2020 only instead of having Trump Derangement Syndrome you have Israel Derangement Syndrome.

But the symptoms are exactly the same.

Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
8244 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 7:48 am to
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but your jew-hatred has blinded your eyes and eaten away your humanity - unless you were born that way as are the current radical islamists in Iran

Wait did I say something about Jews? Way to freak TF out and cry “racism” over legitimate criticism of a foreign world leader. You look ridiculous
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38270 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 7:56 am to
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Until the japs bombed pearl harbor?
Since we are doing hypotheticals, how about conspiracy theory that FDR knew this was coming and allowed it to happen so he would have an excuse to enter the war.
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
10721 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 7:58 am to
Didn’t Iran say they were at war with the US a few months ago.

Haven’t they screamed Death to America for 40 years.

I would say Iran dragged us into it.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13179 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:20 am to
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how about conspiracy theory that FDR knew this was coming and allowed it to happen so he would have an excuse to enter the war.


What about it?

It's been pretty thoroughly debunked.
Posted by BigGreenTiger
Member since Mar 2022
790 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:24 am to
I think the issue is people are remembering that this admin said they completely destroyed the nuke program Iran had. And aggressively asserted that claiming anything otherwise was FAKE NEWS. Then months later we attack Iran in the middle of negotiations. If Iran has no nukes then Israel can defend itself.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13179 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:31 am to
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I think the issue is people are remembering that this admin said they completely destroyed the nuke program Iran had. And aggressively asserted that claiming anything otherwise was FAKE NEWS. Then months later we attack Iran in the middle of negotiations. If Iran has no nukes then Israel can defend itself.


O.k., but why is this the first thing that MAGA seems to care about that Trump says conflicting things about?

He says conflicting things about most things and MAGA doesn't blink, because they recognize that that's how he communicates and they trust that regardless of what he says in public, he's got things under control behind the scenes (even when there's no reason to conclude that).

Why is this different?
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23047 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:46 am to
There are different branches of Islam.

Iran is almost entirely Shia while Saudi Arabia and Kuwait are almost entirely Shia.

Iraq is a combination of the two that was artificially created by the British so they could set the two against each other to be more easily controlled like they did in India, but that’s another story for another day.

The Shias are far more strict in terms of adherence to the Koran which is why you don’t see them flying in hookers from Eastern Europe or driving around London in supercars.

What we’re dealing with are like the super Islam group in Iran who hate the Sunnis almost as much as they hate the Jews and Christians.

To do and maintain regime change would be like going to Salt Lake City and forcing the Mormons to setup Las Vegas style brothels next to their temples.

Sure there are some casuals out there who would be ok with it if they made money on the deal, but 50-70% are going to be pissed and have to be monitored and repressed constantly to keep them from overthrowing whatever proxy group you install to run it.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12008 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:50 am to
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wackatimesthree


So along with having Trump Worshiping Syndrome you also have Israel Worshiping Syndrome. Let me guess you are also a Boomer?

Until Camels can cross The Seas Iran is of zero threat to America. Iran is Israel's problem not ours. The Middle East as a collective can deal with Iran without our help. Also, you can't be for something like DOGE and also for this Iran debacle where we are now spending over a Billion dollars a day and soon to be Two Billion a day. That is insanity.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128695 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:55 am to
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The Shias are far more strict in terms of adherence to the Koran which is why you don’t see them flying in hookers from Eastern Europe or driving around London in supercars.


Shiites allow temporary marriages. You’ll never guess what that is.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
20074 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:55 am to
You prob.think ww2 started out of a vacuum.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23047 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:58 am to
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Shiites allow temporary marriages. You’ll never guess what that is.

I’d probably get banned if I started just posting scripture from the Koran, people aren’t ready to deal with what these groups actually believe.

Of course the same goes for the Talmud, but that’s another story for another day.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13179 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 9:33 am to
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Trump Worshiping Syndrome


I have more downvotes from criticizing Trump here than you have hairs on your arse. Nor can I even fathom how you got that from anything I posted.

quote:

Israel Worshiping Syndrome


Strike two.

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Let me guess you are also a Boomer?


Strike three, and you are out.

BTW, can you even tell me—without looking it up—what a Boomer is?

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quote:
wackatimesthree


So along with having Trump Worshiping Syndrome you also have Israel Worshiping Syndrome. Let me guess you are also a Boomer?

Until Camels can cross The Seas Iran is of zero threat to America.


And here's the fatal populism induced stupidity of not being able to connect anything except linear, one-step, simple and without complication or nuance dots.

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Also, you can't be for something like DOGE and also for this Iran debacle where we are now spending over a Billion dollars a day and soon to be Two Billion a day.




Of course you can...what a moronic thing to say. I could be for both the same way I could be for spending a lot of money on a house but objecting to taking a lot of money and pouring kerosine on it and lighting it on fire.

It might be a stretch for you and you might have to read it several times, but see if you can figure out the difference in those two examples.
This post was edited on 3/18/26 at 9:34 am
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