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re: A majority of Americans want to deport *all* illegal aliens

Posted on 7/4/25 at 8:56 pm to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 7/4/25 at 8:56 pm to
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He's pushing for amnesty for illegal aliens who work certain jobs and meet certain requirements while exempting the businesses that employed those illegal aliens from penalties.

And why do you think Trump is pushing for that? He’s pushing for the bill, and that is in the bill. The reason it’s in the bill is because farm belt senators would not vote for it if it wasn’t. That’s how you have to get a bill passed; you start with what you think you might be able to accomplish, then you start giving away things as bribes until you have a majority. The whole time you have to sell it, even if it’s a shite sandwhich.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39571 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 9:05 pm to
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And why do you think Trump is pushing for that? He’s pushing for the bill, and that is in the bill. The reason it’s in the bill is because farm belt senators would not vote for it if it wasn’t. That’s how you have to get a bill passed; you start with what you think you might be able to accomplish, then you start giving away things as bribes until you have a majority. The whole time you have to sell it, even if it’s a shite sandwhich.


No, it's not in the bill that just passed. He started pushing it during the celebration speech for the BBB

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Don't worry, in 2 weeks you'll all completely change your opinions on immigration and think this is a good thing. You're just waiting to get the memo.

Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 7/4/25 at 10:32 pm to
Those two industries aren't the only one's that he said he would let them stay in. He mentioned Construction also a couple of days ago.

Not what I voted for.
Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
3965 posts
Posted on 7/4/25 at 11:28 pm to
Democrats supported Sanctuary cities

Taco is now changing his message and supporting sanctuary industries
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/4/25 at 11:30 pm to
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Operation Wetback 2.0
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55582 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 6:24 am to
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Don't worry, in 2 weeks you'll all completely change your opinions on immigration and think this is a good thing.

You’re wrong again. My opinions on immigration are well documented on here.

- I am in favor of robust legal immigration
- I am opposed to illegal immigration
- I am against massive deportations (greater than, say 2 million during Trump’s four years)
- I am against allowing Muslims immigrants unless they forswear Islam publicly and even then few of these.
- I am against allowing any ethnic group to immigrate in numbers great enough to allow them to coalesce and not assimilate.
- I would like to see amnesty for illegals here longer than five years who are productive and legally clean, a wall, and a well-funded ICE. And only amnesty if we get bi-partisan support for the enforcement. In the past, they’ve done the amnesty with vague promises of fixing illegal immigration and then reneged.

ETA: I would like to see English Only laws.

So you see, I’ve always thought “this is a good thing”, and I think it should be extended to other industries, with exception of those here less than five years.
This post was edited on 7/5/25 at 6:40 am
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 6:31 am to
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I am in favor of robust legal immigration


What is the difference in robust legal immigration and robust illegal immigration? This is an invasion either way. We are being flooded to the.point that our demographics are changing. We are cutting our own throat. Do you think it is a good thing that whites become a.minority in this country? How do you think that will work out?

Demographics is Destiny
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 7/5/25 at 6:37 am to
I am part of that majority
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55582 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 6:43 am to
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What is the difference in robust legal immigration and robust illegal immigration?

With Legal immigration we can choose our immigrants to enhance our otherwise shrinking society, which has a live birth rate way too low to sustain itself.

Your question is like asking: What’s the difference between an NFL team drafting players and just allowing people to randomly join the team?

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Do you think it is a good thing that whites become a.minority in this country? How do you think that will work out?

Under certain circumstances it could work out fine. If the immigrants that we let in are Asian, European, Non-Muslim Arab, and they are let in at rates that require assimilation, I think it would work out fine. If we only allowed legal immigration, Eastern Europeans should be one of the target groups.
This post was edited on 7/5/25 at 6:48 am
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 6:50 am to
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With Legal immigration we can choose our immigrants to enhance our otherwise shrinking society, which has a live birth rate way too low to sustain itself.



Based on who is being allowed in and from where is that a positive? The vast majority aren't coming from Eastern Europe. They are coming from shithole countries like India.

These people share no American values and do not give a damn about our culture. They are not assimilating like the ones from the past.
This post was edited on 7/5/25 at 6:55 am
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
8038 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 7:45 am to
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Ann Arbor restaurant says ICE agents ate breakfast then detained 3 workers


Lol NYCity Antifa

I’m calling bullshite on this story.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55582 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 9:07 am to
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Based on who is being allowed in and from where is that a positive? The vast majority aren't coming from Eastern Europe. They are coming from shithole countries like India.

We get the creme of the crop from India, so I like that except we have to make sure we don’t get so many that they don’t assimilate. You can’t base the analysis on who has been let in, because we all agree that has been poorly done. Just because the Saints have screwed up the past few drafts does not mean they should no longer draft. Just do a better job. The alternative seems to be a hollowed out country with an upside down demographic pyramid. For a number of reasons, that is cultural suicide.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39571 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 11:20 am to
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You’re wrong again. My opinions on immigration are well documented on here.

- I am in favor of robust legal immigration
- I am opposed to illegal immigration
- I am against massive deportations (greater than, say 2 million during Trump’s four years)
- I am against allowing Muslims immigrants unless they forswear Islam publicly and even then few of these.
- I am against allowing any ethnic group to immigrate in numbers great enough to allow them to coalesce and not assimilate.
- I would like to see amnesty for illegals here longer than five years who are productive and legally clean, a wall, and a well-funded ICE. And only amnesty if we get bi-partisan support for the enforcement. In the past, they’ve done the amnesty with vague promises of fixing illegal immigration and then reneged.

ETA: I would like to see English Only laws.

So you see, I’ve always thought “this is a good thing”, and I think it should be extended to other industries, with exception of those here less than five years.


This is illegal aliens being rewarded for being illegal aliens and the people who employed them being exempt from laws.

So you are in fact in favor of illegal immigration if you support what Trump is doing.

It took less than the 2 weeks I thought it would, it took less than 24 hours.



Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
18000 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 7:12 pm to
lol so who’s gonna be doing those jobs? Your sons and nephews?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55582 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 7:54 pm to
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It took less than the 2 weeks I thought it would, it took less than 24 hours.

You can keep jerking yourself off if you want, but my views have been consistent for years. They haven’t changed in the last two weeks, nor will they in the next.
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