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re: A huge blow to oil and gas production occurred this week and no one noticed
Posted on 9/16/21 at 9:35 am to evil cockroach
Posted on 9/16/21 at 9:35 am to evil cockroach
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I always thought that was the trade off of hourly versus salary. Hourly, you may make a lot one week and less the next. Salary, consistent pay.
Most people consider "salary" to be those who qualify for overtime exemption. That's not something one can just opt into, but requires that you meet certain conditions - one of those being you have to perform executive, administrative, or professional duties. If you don't, your employer has to pay overtime.
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Posted on 9/16/21 at 9:36 am to evil cockroach
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Salary, consistent pay.
And consistently overworked.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 9:37 am to TBoy
Maybe they need to stop fricking their employees over. If as conservative as it gets circuit rules against you , you are dead meat at Scotus.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 9:38 am to tLSU
quote:so in no shape or form. ‘tool pusher’ which the original post mentioned
Most people consider "salary" to be those who qualify for overtime exemption. That's not something one can just opt into, but requires that you meet certain conditions - one of those being you have to perform executive, administrative, or professional duties. If you don't, your employer has to pay overtime.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 9:38 am to TBoy
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huge blow
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damages for seamen
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TBoy
Posted on 9/16/21 at 9:39 am to TBoy
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All five Trump appointees (Ho, Willett, Duncan, Oldham and Wilson) voted in favor of this ridiculous result
Six. Trump appointee Engelhardt also joined the opinion.
But it really has little to do with their politics. The majority group and the dissenters are mixed bags of Ds and Rs. Ho and Jones are about as right as they come, and they disagreed.
It's just a bunch of judges trying to decipher some language and coming to different good faith results.
The oil companies can try to get the regulations revised, or they can get their clever lawyers to develop pay methods that comply with the current regs.
I bet they can figure it out.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 9:40 am to tLSU
Posted on 9/16/21 at 9:40 am to Sao
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Sheeiiit lol. Don't move to Texas, Baw.
It's a federal law, Texas ain't got squat to do with it
Posted on 9/16/21 at 9:41 am to Twenty 49
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good faith results.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 9:41 am to SuperSaint
Didn't know that dude. Crazy story.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 9:42 am to TigerGman
Really? Explain to me then what your corporate equivalent of a Tool Pusher would be.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 9:47 am to TBoy
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All five Trump appointees
This is what you’re really upset about, (low)TBoy.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 9:48 am to SuperSaint
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so in no shape or form. ‘tool pusher’ which the original post mentioned
OP's characterization is wildly off in many ways.
Employee according to opinion did perform managerial duties. However, Helix chose to pay him at a daily rate, which would have been fine had they guaranteed the minimum weekly required to make the salary regardless of the number of hours or days worked in a week. They structured the pay illegally.
It's a plain language of a statute case. Nothing groundbreaking.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 9:49 am to Centinel
Yeah I don't get paid OT. I rarely have to work over but when I do, I just get the predetermined amount for that day
Posted on 9/16/21 at 9:53 am to Sao
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Explain to me then what your corporate equivalent of a Tool Pusher would be.
Maybe Site Manager or Project Manager
Posted on 9/16/21 at 9:56 am to TBoy
Barring a contract that stipulates otherwise, that has been the law for as long as I have been working. I'm about to turn 60.
Most companies do this anyway. Some companies, like every major oil company that I people I know work for, even pay an offshore differential to their employees.
This is not a blow to anyone really. It's all about the contract.
Most companies do this anyway. Some companies, like every major oil company that I people I know work for, even pay an offshore differential to their employees.
This is not a blow to anyone really. It's all about the contract.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 9:57 am to TBoy
Hopefully this is not retroactive.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 10:01 am to Cdub_tiger
Where’s the sympathy for this going to come from? $200,000 for working half the year oj a job that would probably be lucky to make $75,000 on land commuting to work daily? I mean it’s not like this guy was working 65 hours a week with no vacation and making $35,000
Posted on 9/16/21 at 10:11 am to SPEEDY
quote:Likely, they WERE salaried, but were misclassified intentionally in order to avoid overtime hours.
Unless they are salaried, why wouldn’t they get paid overtime if they work more than 40 hours?
I'm salaried, generally work 60 hours or more in a week and don't get extra pay for that. In exchange, the company can't tell me when to work (although there is an expectation of when), as long as I'm getting my job done, so if I decide to go shopping, play golf or sit around and masturbate all day long, they don't care, as long as I'm getting my work done and providing revenue and care for my clients. In exchange for that, the company gets me when they need me for weekends and nighttime travel. As far as I'm concerned, it all works out okay.
Now, in this case, it appears that there WAS an expectation to work these extra hours, and the company WAS telling the employee when to work. If that is the case, the court may have it right.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 10:17 am to Kankles
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Kankles
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