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Posted on 5/19/18 at 7:18 pm to AUstar
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They did disclose it, though. The whole Alfa bank story was out before election.
This thread relates to what the F-B-I. did and their disclosure to hurt Trump.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 7:23 pm to texridder
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Speaking about not being able to grasp simple concepts. You can't even say why it doesn't support my claim.
Because your claim is nonsensical and your reasoning doesn't support it. Anyone of normal intelligence realizes that fact.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 7:33 pm to AUTiger1978
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Releasing this so close to the election, right after publicly clearing HRC,
Only cleared Hillary for good the day before the election. They could have easily said they are reopening Hillary and leak/release Russia/Trump investigation at the same time, 10 days before the election. .
Posted on 5/19/18 at 7:35 pm to texridder
quote:Now that I carefully read what you wrote, I still don’t care.
texridder
Posted on 5/19/18 at 7:52 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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Why would the Obama administration expose its own illegal clandestine spying operation against a political opponent?
Great point.
Answer: To insure Hillary would win so they would never have to worry about it.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 7:54 pm to BBONDS25
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Because your claim is nonsensical and your reasoning doesn't support it. Anyone of normal intelligence realizes that fact.
You obviously don't have the intelligence to post a reasoned response to refute it.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 8:00 pm to Robin Masters
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You really think the public should have believed that Trump was suddenly under investigation for Russian collusion?
They could have just leaked it. That's all it would have taken.
Or they could have disclosed that Trump had been under investigation at the same time they said that Hillary's investigation was being reopened.
If they are so intent on Trump not winning, and if Hillary wins it all goes away, why would they care.
Please.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 8:03 pm to texridder
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You obviously don't have the intelligence to post a reasoned response to refute it.
That is silly. If I say 2 plus 2 is 5...it is incorrect on its face. Your OP is similar. You draw conclusions that aren't supported by anything you said. There is nothing to refute. Your post is nonsensical. This is your modus operandi. You lack an ability to grasp basic concepts...which leads to these type of exchanges. It's not very easy to try to reason with an imbecile.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 8:03 pm to texridder
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You obviously don't have the intelligence to post a reasoned response to refute it
I refuted it on page 2...
There is no "Russia" it was made up (pretend, fake, baloney, bullshite, not real, unsubstanciated) as oppo research, then used as an excuse to spy on Carter Page, so they could spy on Trump, because of the 2-degrees-of-separation spy rule...
The weight and mass of the federal government was ILLEGALLY used to spy on the day to day activity of a citizen running for President...
And everyone that signed that FISC authorization knows it...
Then used to establish a Special Council to either destroy or at least hamstring the sitting President from exercising the duly ELECTED AUTHORITY OVER THE ENTIRETY OF THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH.
frick the DoJ and FBI, they failed and all their shitty laundry is getting hung out right now.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 8:03 pm to GetmorewithLes
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Yes, You are correct. They were not investigating Trump per se... they were just spying on him and disseminating info to everyone in the Dem Party and unmasking intelligence reports that were only about Trump people and leaking it to the media. Notice that they did do anything like that to Democrats... wonder why? They must have been all fine upstanding law abiding citizen servants of the people.
If they were doing all that bad stuff, why not leak the Trump investigation, to insure Hillary wins, so it all gets washed down the drain?
Posted on 5/19/18 at 8:05 pm to texridder
Stretch before you stretch.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 8:11 pm to texridder
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If they were doing all that bad stuff, why not leak the Trump investigation, to insure Hillary wins, so it all gets washed down the drain?
My God. You are claiming the Obama administrations failure to make public their surreptitious, clandestine, and illegal spying on a political opponent is evidence they weren't surreptitiously spying. The fact you can't comprehend why that is a ridiculous position is amazing. Again....Your limited capacity has screwed you.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 8:19 pm to BBONDS25
quote:He actually claiming the illegal clandestine spy job should have been an overt, not a covert, operation.
My God. You are claiming the Obama administrations failure to make public their surreptitious, clandestine, and illegal spying on a political opponent is evidence they weren't surreptitiously spying. The fact you can't comprehend why that is a ridiculous position is amazing. Again....Your limited capacity has screwed you.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 8:22 pm to IceTiger
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I refuted it on page 2...
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They weren't investigating Russia...they were spying on Trump...Russia was the plant, there is no Russia
The question posed was if the FBI was working so hard against Trump, why didn't they disclose the fact that they were investigating the Trump campaign.
And your answer is that they weren't investigating the because the investigation was fake.
That doesn't explain why the FBI didn't disclose that the Trump campaign was under FBI investigation (whether it was real or fake) if they were working against Trump.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 8:24 pm to texridder
So when they impeach President Trump are you going to her inauguration ceremony?
Posted on 5/19/18 at 8:31 pm to BBONDS25
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You are claiming the Obama administrations failure to make public their surreptitious, clandestine, and illegal spying on a political opponent is evidence they weren't surreptitiously spying.
That's not what I said.
I have said it 5 times (and once directly to you) that the premise is: if the Obama FBI was working so hard against Trump, why didn't they leak the FBI Russian investigation?
That's the second time you posted that same thing about me claiming it meant that there wasn't spying??????. Are you that dense?
Posted on 5/19/18 at 8:36 pm to texridder
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if the Obama FBI was working so hard against Trump, why didn't they leak the FBI Russian investigation?
The only conclusion that can be drawn from this premise is the FBI wasn't working against trump. That is a nonsensical statement. The FBI was spying on Trump but not working against him? That is your conclusion?
I'm consistently amazed how you call others dense when it is clear you have a limited capacity.
This post was edited on 5/19/18 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 5/19/18 at 8:43 pm to texridder
To Whom should this be fatal to?
Posted on 5/19/18 at 8:44 pm to texridder
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If they were doing all that bad stuff, why not leak the Trump investigation, to insure Hillary wins, so it all gets washed down the drain?
Because the FBI didn't have a GD thing that they didn't themselves manufacture. They recycled information from their own spies within the Trump campaign to illegally spy on the campaign. The Trump campaign likely had the most thorough colonoscopy ever performed on a presidential candidate due to all of this b.s. illegal spying. Not sure if you remember but the FBI already had quite a few red flags in the credibility department with regard to this election. Coming out last minute with some vague "under investigation" line with no details wasn't going to fly.
Plus, at that point the FBI couldn't exactly come out with yet another story that was pro-Hillary. They had to choose. Either clear Hillary or say Trump is under a b.s. investigation. You can't do both in a matter of days without confirming you're in the tank for HRC. Presented with that choice, they chose to clear Hillary instead of trying to do a last minute reveal of their Trump 'investigation.'
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