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re: A Comparison of Sweden and Israel on Covid

Posted on 8/5/21 at 11:46 am to
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 11:46 am to
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healthier population?



And more natural immunity.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116719 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 11:52 am to
Swedish women are a lot prettier than Israelis.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18500 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 11:55 am to
Pretty sure population density isn’t the same in Sweden as it is in Isreal, where they are living on top of each other (my assumption)

It’s no secret pathogen transmission is more efficient when hosts are in dense groupings.
This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 11:57 am
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 12:01 pm to
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Pretty sure population density isn’t the same in Sweden as it is in Isreal, where they are living on top of each other (my assumption)

It’s no secret pathogen transmission is more efficient when hosts are in dense groupings.


Mean while in India...



This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 12:03 pm
Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
6585 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 12:02 pm to
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The idea that 71 deaths in 6 weeks in a 9+ million population is starting discussions of mass lockdowns, masking, travel bans, etc is pure insanity.


Aren't there like negative 12 cases in Australia yet they just deployed the military to enforce lockdowns? World has lost their minds over this stupid "virus."
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14968 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 12:04 pm to
Sweden has an overall higher per capita COVID death rate.

Like 2x as high. (~1400 deaths per 1 million versus ~700 deaths per 1 million).

The last 6 weeks might be a trend in the right direction for Sweden, or it might be cherry picking.

Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
HSV
Member since Jan 2021
3914 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 12:06 pm to
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The idea that 71 deaths in 6 weeks in a 9+ million population is starting discussions of mass lockdowns, masking, travel bans, etc is pure insanity.




That's about the same number of blacks murdered by other blacks in Chicago for the same time frame.

Hmmmm.....
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78250 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 12:07 pm to
Total Death

Sweden 14620
Israel 6505

And Sweden’s cases rate is starting to climb. These waves do not effect countries at the same time.
This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 12:08 pm
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 12:08 pm to
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Sweden has an overall higher per capita COVID death rate. Like 2x as high. (~1400 deaths per 1 million versus ~700 deaths per 1 million). The last 6 weeks might be a trend in the right direction for Sweden, or it might be cherry picking.


Fictitious numbers in = fictitious numbers out

How do you guys actually think these numbers were collected?

Here are some links to some random number generator, just as helpful.
https://www.random.org/
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14968 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 12:12 pm to
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Fictitious numbers in = fictitious numbers out

How do you guys actually think these numbers were collected?


Amazing how you didn't comment on the OP's numbers when it fit your narrative.

It's like you care less about the truth than pushing your preconceived agenda.

Nah, that couldn't be it...
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
13103 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 12:12 pm to
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Vit D issues and different outcomes


If Biden really cared about Black Lives he would give them free Vit D and also to Latinos for over 50 international studies have revealed people with low Vit D ( blacks and dark skin people can't produce Vit D) have porer outcomes when infected with Covid-19.

Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11857 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 12:13 pm to
I'd imagine the deaths are higher in Israel right now because it's hot AF forcing people inside. Anybody know anything about the weather in Sweden? I'd imagine the winters are pretty long.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11857 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 12:16 pm to
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Fictitious numbers in = fictitious numbers out



Arguing over numbers is a futile excercise. Even if the numbers are 100% accurate, there isn't a single data point that justifies our new technocratic, command and control society.

Saying Sweden's death rate is 2x as high. You're talking about 8k total deaths difference and one society is free and the other is not
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

Amazing how you didn't comment on the OP's numbers when it fit your narrative.

It's like you care less about the truth than pushing your preconceived agenda.

Nah, that couldn't be it...




All the numbers are more or less useless, including the OP.

They might as well be random number generated.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

Arguing over numbers is a futile excercise. Even if the numbers are 100% accurate, there isn't a single data point that justifies our new technocratic, command and control society.

Saying Sweden's death rate is 2x as high. You're talking about 8k total deaths difference and one society is free and the other is not




Exactly, even if we use these stupid numbers... there is no justification for the nonsense fear hysteria.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11857 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 12:23 pm to
The problem is in the U.S. people are just really bad at analyzing numbers. I can use the same data as a left winger and conclude the exact opposite. 600k and maybe a 10% increase in deaths YoY isn't enough to justify anything we've done for the past 1.5 years. Especially when you factor in most of those deaths are pulled forward from future years because it's all old and unhelathy people. Our public unfortunately rewards action and there was too much institutional power pushing fear and policies to prevent any of it.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18500 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 12:24 pm to
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Mean while in India...


Exactly. They averaged 300-400k daily cases for nearly a month straight - likely due to that density.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30543 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 12:25 pm to
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World has lost their minds over this stupid "virus."



It is about control... they got the world and this country to dance like a monkey and they will continue to have the monkey dance...
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
23144 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 12:37 pm to
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Deaths with Covid per 100k: Sweden 143.8, Israel 67.9



Sweden is NOT a success story. The only people stupid enough to believe this are probably also stupid enough to think Cuomo is a hero instead of a murderer.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25142 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 12:42 pm to
LINK statista

Covid deaths in Europe per 100,000.

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