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re: 86 47 is free speech

Posted on 5/16/25 at 12:51 pm to
Posted by International_Aggie
Member since Oct 2012
2037 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 12:51 pm to
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Stop lying. Only the part about his opposition to the draft was overturned


Where did I lie? The statement “it is illegal to yell fire in a crowded theater” is false.

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The part about incitement of violence was actually strengthen by the ruling


Obviously. That’s what I’ve been saying.
This post was edited on 5/16/25 at 12:53 pm
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55208 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 1:20 pm to
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Considering there has been an assassination attempt TWICE on his life

This is true, and the Democrats are partly culpable because of their extreme rhetoric. But some irresponsible rhetoric is less bad that other. “8647”, meaning “ditch Trump” is not nearly as bad as “Trump is Hitler” or “Trump will destroy democracy”. Those last two are possible incitements to violence. After all, if they were true, violence would be proper. But “8647” does not rise to that level.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
9989 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 1:24 pm to
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86 47 is free speech


Lemme ask Jimmy Hodgkinson.

Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
9685 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 1:26 pm to
You can’t yell fire in a movie theater. Not ALL speech is protected. And considering it’s about a federal officer, much less the President, well I think you might be crossing that fire line.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8590 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 1:30 pm to
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meaning “ditch Trump”


You have to be really disingenuous to believe this is what they mean by it. Who exactly are they directing this too? Democrats? Not Republicans, we know that. Independents? Who? It really doesn't make any sense that the former FBI director would post something that infers "ditch" the President. You and I both know what he and whoever else posts this tripe is inferring.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55208 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 1:44 pm to
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You and I both know what he and whoever else posts this tripe is inferring.

I think it’s a call to impeach the President. You could be right that he wishes someone would kill him, but that is a belief of yours, not an established fact.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8590 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 1:49 pm to
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I think it’s a call to impeach the President.


To who? Democrats wanted him impeached the day he took office. And if that's the case, why didn't the little Indian congressman have a bunch of 8647 banners flying at his IMPEACHMENT press conference? Don't be an idiot.
This post was edited on 5/16/25 at 3:02 pm
Posted by Gings5
Member since Jul 2016
11631 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 2:14 pm to


Not everything is protected by the first amendment. You can’t make threats against the president.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
20333 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 2:51 pm to
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Yeah and so is 8646. You can still get the t-shirts on Amazon. I ordered one. No shite, really.

His brain was 86’d a long time ago, just walks around like a zombie sniffing hair.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
16595 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 3:22 pm to
There is no free speech in America.


1A is limited.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55208 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 3:32 pm to
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To who? Democrats wanted him impeached the day he took office.

To whom was “FJB” directed?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55208 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 3:34 pm to
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There is no free speech in America.


1A is limited.

We can’t afford to include every clarification of every nuance each time we speak. We all understand that “Freedom of speech” has some necessary qualifications.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
16595 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 3:54 pm to
You either have free speech or you do not have free speech.

If you have to qualify your speech you in fact do not have free speech.

You have permissible speech and what is permitted can change and often does.

Quite different than free speech.

The 1st amendment is limited permissible speech open to scrutiny by whomever is wielding the majority of power at any given time.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55208 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 4:12 pm to
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You either have free speech or you do not have free speech.

If you have to qualify your speech you in fact do not have free speech.

You have permissible speech and what is permitted can change and often does.

Quite different than free speech.

You’ve confused me. I probably just don’t understand the meaning you are giving to your terms.

I can’t publicly accuse you of crimes you didn’t commit; that’s slander. I can’t go to Bourbon Street and start yelling that we should kill all the Asians; that’s incitement. Are you saying these are impermissible, yet we still have free speech because we can speak any permissible things?

In the USA I can speak publicly about any point of view. That is not so in most other countries.
Posted by FLTech
he/won
Member since Sep 2017
28093 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 4:39 pm to
So is walking into a hospital screaming that you have a bomb strapped to you. Yea, that’s free speech too but guess what? That free speech also has consequences
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
21017 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 4:43 pm to
I hope someone literally 86’s you. How’s that?
Posted by Schleynole
Member since Sep 2022
1496 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 4:45 pm to
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Not everything is protected by the first amendment. You can’t make threats against the president.


It literally says "no law".
Posted by NOBigEZ
Raleigh, NC
Member since Aug 2020
535 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 5:24 pm to
How about a strong 86DNC and 86MSM movement gets going viral, and then watch how these vile f'ers will lose their minds.
Posted by Kattail
Member since Aug 2020
4213 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 5:29 pm to
Isn’t signaling for the murder of a sitting president same as yelling “fire” in a crowded theater?
Posted by Bengalbio
Member since Feb 2017
2197 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 5:34 pm to
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It's insurrection


8647 is insurrection? Jfc, this is dumb.
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