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re: 793 Billion in Social Security funds stolen annually ( 1/3 of all SS spending fraudulent)
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:48 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:48 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:53 pm to Kjnstkmn
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Yes it hasn’t all been proved as rock solid yet and he did use “might be” as a result until it has been, but it’s amazing how you guys are so quick to come to the defense of the government, I’m sure it’s just an honest mistake, they’re all angels, nothing to see here.
My post wasn't a defense of the government. More an indictment on the X clickbait and insta-reply culture without ever asking any questions.
I do appreciate you posting the Stephen Miller clip right above my post about foreign nationals using stolen or fake SSN to collect benefits.
There was an article last week about some bitch in AZ getting caught helping 400 NoKo's use stolen identities to collect payments during the COVID stimulus checks era.
I appreciate what you bring to the forum, I just always want to see the details on shite rather than just the tweet from zerohedge or Anon or whoever.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:54 pm to Who_Dat_Tiger
I did a little digging from when USDS was first started up by Obama.
This former Google guy, Mickey Dickerson, was involved in leading the program. He was also later involved in the russia collusion hoax.
But no one elected them...
This former Google guy, Mickey Dickerson, was involved in leading the program. He was also later involved in the russia collusion hoax.
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Mikey Dickerson, Administrator of the U.S. Digital Service, and Jen Pahlka, former Deputy CTO of the United States and founder of Code for America, gave a talk at the 2015 SXSW Interactive Festival on “How Government Fails and How You Can Fix It.”
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The government shutdown was over, and the failure of Healthcare.gov was the lead story on cable news all day every day. The original estimate from the Congressional Budget Office had been that 7 million people would enroll in this first enrollment period, but Todd said that given the circumstances if we could manage 4 million, that would be a home run.
He said they needed an independent outside team to figure out how bad the problems were and if they could be fixed to save the site this year. Also that if it couldn’t be fixed, then it would be a catastrophe for the policy, with the 2014 election coming and the unpopular law having failed to launch. Democrat support would probably fracture, the election would be a disaster, the President would be a lame duck two years early, and nobody would try again for a generation.
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“The whole system had worked as normal and produced the expected result,
which was a web site that was overpriced by hundreds of millions of dollars
and did not work, at all.”
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People that had been working on government technology reform for years had received a huge boost from the Healthcare.gov meltdown. So pretty soon Todd Park was calling me again, asking me to come work for a group that has now become known as the U.S. Digital Service. It took a few months to convince me, but in August I finally left Google forever and moved to Washington.
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Where I was worried about recruiting 10 people, I actually got over a thousand applications. The demand from the agencies is also more than we could ever satisfy. We have met with 22 of them and identified around 60 projects that need attention.
And possibly the most surprising thing was that Congress passed an omnibus spending bill in December, and it included the full $20M funding request to operate the U.S. Digital Service. This will allow us to grow to about 40 people and take on 10 projects in 2015.
And this is the part where you come in.
Right now, at least, in this moment, we have overwhelming demand for engineers like yourself in the federal government. And we have overwhelming supply of people that want to come help.
For these reasons, we have proposed in the President’s 2016 budget a total of $105 million to create copies of the U.S. Digital Service team inside all of the 24 major agencies, for a total of around 500 people.
But no one elected them...
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The Affordable Care Act, I just told you about. The Social Security Administration mails checks from a mainframe running COBOL, which might kind of be OK except that more than half of the workforce that maintains it is at or near retirement age. What happens then?
This post was edited on 2/17/25 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:56 pm to Hodag
We are the news now.
Bongino 48 hour rule will show whether the story has real teeth or not.
If it does will be too big for the mockingbird fake news dying MSM to ignore it
Bongino 48 hour rule will show whether the story has real teeth or not.
If it does will be too big for the mockingbird fake news dying MSM to ignore it
This post was edited on 2/17/25 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:58 pm to Tupelo
How naive are you?! Lol good grief
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:59 pm to Harry Boutte
Fine. Investigate the errors, but stop payments until the issue is resolved.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 3:00 pm to Kjnstkmn
MTG not worried about it being much ado about nothing
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 3:07 pm to Kjnstkmn
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but it’s amazing how you guys are so quick to come to the defense of the government,
It’s amazing that more people aren’t asking questions. So many take whatever Elon says as gospel. No one even knows what a false death field is or if that’s even possible. The government wastes more money in one day than many of us will see in our lifetimes, but the reality is we don’t know what this means yet.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 3:17 pm to Kjnstkmn
Posted on 2/17/25 at 3:17 pm to Quidam65
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Fine. Investigate the errors, but stop payments until the issue is resolved.
I'm all for rooting out waste, but it's kind of fricked up to make a recipient suffer for a government mistake. Let's find and fix the errors quickly and minimize the waste that way.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 3:20 pm to Kjnstkmn
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The payment files that move between Social Security and Treasury have significant inconsistencies that are not reconciled.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 3:23 pm to cadillacattack
A lot given out in SSI to people lying about salaries and assests. There has to be a vetting system. It would probably be less expensive in the end than just taking someone's word.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 3:27 pm to RelicBatches86
Do some of you guys have multiple social security numbers?
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 3:30 pm to Kjnstkmn
I think about some of my Aunts and Uncles who where the greatest generation, how much they paid in, how little they got back.
How many people relied on this money to get by on their fixed income and they could have received a little more.
And these C@nts created the SS offset to punish people who paid in put also worked for a time and got a government pension.
How many people relied on this money to get by on their fixed income and they could have received a little more.
And these C@nts created the SS offset to punish people who paid in put also worked for a time and got a government pension.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 3:32 pm to Kjnstkmn
Posted on 2/17/25 at 3:38 pm to Kjnstkmn
I heard Musk talking about this in the Oval Office last week. This is far bigger than I thought. One person is over 300 years (fox news app) old that would have made them older than our country. 
Posted on 2/17/25 at 3:39 pm to Harry Boutte
If the payment is legitimate, the Prompt Payment Act requires that interest be paid if it is more than 30 days after entitlement.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 3:42 pm to Decatur
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This it?
OIG Audit Report: Numberholders Age 100 or Older Who Did Not Have Death Information on the Numident
yep. basically it wouldve cost a lot of money to update and those people weren't receiving any money anyway so they didn't bother updating the records, it's explained on page 5 of that audit.
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The Agency Decided Not to Address These Discrepancies
In response to our 2015 report, SSA considered multiple options, including adding presumed
death information to these Numident records. SSA ultimately decided not to proceed because
the “. . . options would be costly to implement, would be of little benefit to the agency, would
largely duplicate information already available to data exchange consumers and would create
cost for the states and other data exchange partners.”16 SSA also believed a regulation would
be required to allow it to add death information to these records, and adding presumed death
information to the Numident would increase the risk of inadvertent release of living individuals’
personal information in the DMF.
We note that, as of January 2023, the full DMF included death information on approximately
137 million deceased numberholders. Over 18 million missing death records represents more
than 10 percent of the records in the full DMF. Therefore, the death information SSA currently
provides Federal benefit-paying agencies--and will begin providing to the Department of the
Treasury’s Do Not Pay initiative in December 2023--to help prevent improper payments to
deceased individuals, omit information for more than 1 of every 10 deceased numberholders
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Do Not Pay
The Department of the Treasury’s Bureau of Fiscal Services operates the Do Not Pay portal as
part of a Government-wide initiative to prevent and detect improper payments. SSA officials
stated that Treasury purchases the Limited Access DMF from the Department of Commerce for
use in preventing payments to deceased individuals. However, the Consolidated Appropriations
Act of 202117 includes a requirement for SSA to share its full DMF (including state death
records) with the Do Not Pay initiative beginning in December 2023. Taking action to include
death information for the millions of numberholders omitted from the DMF would enhance
Government-wide improper payment prevention and detection.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 3:54 pm to Kjnstkmn
Cut out the fraud, everybody legitimate gets a 20% increase and you still save 500 billion a year.
Who else wants a refund?
Now only if somebody disclosed the names of the owners and balances of all Cayman and Swiss bank accounts.
Who else wants a refund?
Now only if somebody disclosed the names of the owners and balances of all Cayman and Swiss bank accounts.
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