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re: 74.1% of US adults have at least one dose. 63.4% of adults are fully vaccinated.
Posted on 8/31/21 at 1:32 pm to Froman
Posted on 8/31/21 at 1:32 pm to Froman
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They said this when the vaccine came out.
This is why no one trusts the vaccine. When you have to lie to prove your case, you have no case.
We were told that people once vaccinated would not carry or transmit the virus. LIE
We were told the clinical trials had a confidence level of 95% (98.4% likelihood that you would not catch the virus). LIE
We were told clinical trials showed 100% of vaccinated would not end up in hospitals. LIE
We were told the vaccines are safe and would not result in adverse effects such as hospitalizations and death. LIE
I am very suspicious as to what the end game is on why the vaccine is being pushed on us. But it has little to do with eradicating this disease.
Posted on 8/31/21 at 2:17 pm to League Champs
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This is why no one trusts the vaccine. When you have to lie to prove your case, you have no case. We were told that people once vaccinated would not carry or transmit the virus. LIE We were told the clinical trials had a confidence level of 95% (98.4% likelihood that you would not catch the virus). LIE We were told clinical trials showed 100% of vaccinated would not end up in hospitals. LIE We were told the vaccines are safe and would not result in adverse effects such as hospitalizations and death. LIE
^^^^
Posted on 8/31/21 at 2:18 pm to Tiguar
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COVID is not spreading as if every other potential host is a dead end. Therefore, the 120m “cases” is likely bullshite.
Yale, Stanford and Harvard schools of public health say it's more like 150 million.
I think all the data are bullshite. Cases, hospitalizations and deaths - all bullshite designed to make sure nobody really knows frick all about what's going on so they're more easily duped.
And now it's young people that are being ravaged by Covid! Here's some food for thought -
From the start of the CV19 scam through 8/25/21, deaths of 2,892 15-to-29 year olds have been recorded as caused by CV19. That's from the CDC, so it includes some 15-29 year olds that actually died from cancers, accidents and suicides.
During the same timeframe there has been 22,750 opioid OD deaths for the same age group. This doesn't include opioid users/addicts that died in car accidents or from cancers, etc. The 22,750 opioid deaths represents a 45% increase over 2019's incidence of opioid deaths for the same age group. That's nearly 10,000 opioid OD deaths more than the 2019 baseline projects.
The CV19 bullshite - not talking about the virus - but all the fear mongering, lockdowns, bitching/moaning, etc., has killed (easily) 4 times as many 15-29 year olds by opioid overdose (alone) than the virus itself, and that's counting CV19 deaths like a lying liberal politician has mandated.
This post was edited on 8/31/21 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 8/31/21 at 2:24 pm to Froman
Most of us won't say anything to those of you blindly taking the vaccine, when side effects start getting serious. Hard to believe you people trust the CDC and WH the way you do.
Posted on 8/31/21 at 2:32 pm to Crumblingcountry
That’s the other problem. No transparency. Everything they say turns to shite a few months later after some scrutiny. They are misleading people in order for them to get a vaccine. If they were upfront, they wouldn’t be having the issues they are.
Side effects are on every commercial for medications. Not for the vaccine. They are largely buried. You have to get information internationally to get the full picture after heavy digging. They should be plastered on commercials like the law says
Side effects are on every commercial for medications. Not for the vaccine. They are largely buried. You have to get information internationally to get the full picture after heavy digging. They should be plastered on commercials like the law says
This post was edited on 8/31/21 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 8/31/21 at 2:36 pm to xxTIMMYxx
But that would hurt their efforts for population control.
Posted on 8/31/21 at 2:41 pm to the808bass
quote:You're being facile. The Delta variant is wildly more infectious than alpha. However, it is NOT more deadly. This is all perfectly reflected in hospital census data - yes, even some vaxxed people are getting/spreading infections...however, the acuity is quite low (the vast majority of acute cases are non-vaxxed.)
Covid is running wild.
Posted on 8/31/21 at 2:44 pm to the808bass
Here is a table I did trying to make sense of the numbers.
This breaks down the estimate of naturally immune who have been vaxxed.

This breaks down the estimate of naturally immune who have been vaxxed.

Posted on 8/31/21 at 2:48 pm to Froman
quote:20 people responded to you and you couldn’t reply to a single one of them?
Froman
Posted on 8/31/21 at 2:51 pm to the808bass
Zero Hedge article
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Who’s Really Being Hospitalized?
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After a battery of testing, my friend was diagnosed with pancreatitis. But it was easier for the hospital bureaucracy to register the admission as a COVID case.
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in Israel, the first country to fully vaccinate a majority of its citizens against the virus. Now it has one of the highest daily infection rates and the majority of people catching the virus (77 percent to 83 percent, depending on age) are already vaccinated, according to data collected by the Israeli government.
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As reported by the Associated Press, “The CDC itself has not estimated what percentage of hospitalizations and deaths are in fully vaccinated people, citing limitations in the data.”
Posted on 8/31/21 at 2:52 pm to Big Scrub TX
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You're being facile.
I’m largely uninterested in hospitalizations for the purpose of this discussion. I’m talking about the population that should be susceptible to Covid.
Posted on 8/31/21 at 2:54 pm to David_DJS
Covid deaths breakdown by age:
Here are the comorbidities associated with covid deaths (it shows almost 1.9million - there were on avg 3.2 comorbidities per covid death)

Here are the comorbidities associated with covid deaths (it shows almost 1.9million - there were on avg 3.2 comorbidities per covid death)

Posted on 8/31/21 at 2:54 pm to Froman
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quit being little bitches and just man up and get this shite.
frick you Froman, you Pussy
This post was edited on 8/31/21 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 8/31/21 at 2:55 pm to bbvdd
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citing limitations in the data
The old “when you need a straight line get two data points” school of thought.
Posted on 8/31/21 at 2:55 pm to the808bass
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I’m largely uninterested in hospitalizations for the purpose of this discussion. I’m talking about the population that should be susceptible to Covid.
See chart I posted above.
Not including the <12 age group, I have estimated that there are approximately 48 million that are unvaxxed and have not been infected with covid.
Posted on 8/31/21 at 2:57 pm to BaldEagleHey
Yeah. That’s a good breakdown.
And it seems to really lay bare how bad the CDC estimate is.
And it seems to really lay bare how bad the CDC estimate is.
Posted on 8/31/21 at 2:57 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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We were told 75-85%of vaccinated would lead to the end of the virus.
Of course they lied, again.
Fully vaccinated. Only 63.4% of America’s are fully vaccinated. So your reasoning is a bit premature
Posted on 8/31/21 at 3:01 pm to the808bass
quote:But that's facile also! "Susceptible" to covid for the vaxxed is a different ballgame now. Yes, they can get infected. No, it's MUCH less likely to be acute.
I’m largely uninterested in hospitalizations for the purpose of this discussion. I’m talking about the population that should be susceptible to Covid.
The only way to get life back to normal is to make it like the flu basically - 10-60k people will die per year, but we won't completely upend every day life for that because we have easy mitigation methods.
We will never get there if unvaxxed dumbasses don't stop ending up in the hospital.
Posted on 8/31/21 at 3:05 pm to Big Scrub TX
It’s good to see you back to being a contrarian with a loose grasp of the facts.
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