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re: 74.1% of US adults have at least one dose. 63.4% of adults are fully vaccinated.
Posted on 8/31/21 at 3:39 pm to Big Scrub TX
Posted on 8/31/21 at 3:39 pm to Big Scrub TX
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That is almost all we should care about.
Tell that to the people you voted for that are constantly bemoaning “cases”
This is what you wanted. This is what you voted for.
Posted on 8/31/21 at 3:40 pm to Willie Stroker
quote:None of what I say should be construed as any defense of any democrat (or other) politician. Biden is a turd. The CDC is a pile of shite. None of that affects the success being observed with the vaccines.
You may have quickly forgotten that the President of the United States looked into the camera just a month ago and stated quite clearly, “You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.”
Are you lying? Or will you acknowledge that the science behind this is primarily political science? And you clearly prefer pushing the political science over truth.
Also: when did Biden say that? I'm proud of the fact that I literally have not heard his voice as POTUS. I don't see how some of you can even listen at all. But do you have a link?
Posted on 8/31/21 at 3:46 pm to Froman
quote:Yes
It’s widely known that you can be vaccinated and still get covid. They said this when the vaccine came out.
But, they ALSO said that if you've been infected, the re-infect rate is about 1% AND, they said that if you're vaccinated, your odds of needing hospitalization go extremely down.
Yet. Somehow, we are being told our hospitals are being over run.
This means that somehow, with less than half the population that was at hospitalization risk in early 2020, we STILL have similar hospitalization total numbers.
quote:Which is the point of the OP. How are the numbers STILL high with half the nation protected? Do you even math????
Your chances of getting it drop dramatically if you are vaccinated
Posted on 8/31/21 at 3:49 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:frick the vax narrative.
I understand that, but I don't think it's relevant. Every thread like this one is used essentially in service of an anti-vaxx narrative.
They are using high hospital numbers as a bludgeon to scare the shite out of people into more shut downs, mandates etc etc etc
I wanna know how the frick you cut the number of at risk by more than half and end up with the same level of hospitalization numbers!
I don't know WHICH numbers or claims are wrong but I do know this. There's a LOT of bull shite in there because it CANNOT.............repeat......CANNOT all be true. It's literally internally contradictory
Posted on 8/31/21 at 3:51 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:But how?
I didn't do that. I blamed the unvaxxed for suffering higher acuity and thus filling up hospitals.
They are as at risk today as they were 12 months ago
SUPPOSEDLY, more than half the nation is at FAR LESS risk than they were 12 months ago.
Thus...........do I have to spell it out???
Posted on 8/31/21 at 4:00 pm to Big Scrub TX
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We will never get there if unvaxxed dumbasses don't stop ending up in the hospital.
Actually yes we will get there but it will take time. There are approximately 90 million unvaccinated Americans (I got that from Tucker Carlson last week) and the USA has averaged 2,000,000 Covid cases per month. So in about 4 years to get there.
Of course it’s only right that covid sinks the Biden and Harris Presidency since Biden and his POS supporters politicized the virus and the vaccine. Karma is a bitch. Hopefully you liberals remember that next time you use a plague to steal an election.
Posted on 8/31/21 at 4:15 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Also: when did Biden say that? I'm proud of the fact that I literally have not heard his voice as POTUS. I don't see how some of you can even listen at all. But do you have a link?
July 22nd.
LINK
Edited: note he also claimed that if you were vaccinated, you would not be hospitalized, would not be in ICU, and would not die (presumably from Covid). The guy is informed by our best medical advisors AND has cheat sheets to help him with his talking points.
This post was edited on 8/31/21 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 8/31/21 at 4:16 pm to Froman
quote:
It’s widely known that you can be vaccinated and still get covid.
It's also widely know that the vaxxers are super spreaders.
Posted on 8/31/21 at 4:19 pm to Willie Stroker
wut
He did not say "“You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.”
He said "covid will primarily kill those that are unvaccinated. And that happens to be true.
Screw you for making me have to hear this a-hole's voice for no reason at all.
He did not say "“You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.”
He said "covid will primarily kill those that are unvaccinated. And that happens to be true.
Screw you for making me have to hear this a-hole's voice for no reason at all.
Posted on 8/31/21 at 4:20 pm to Big Scrub TX
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I can't answer it, because it's basically a conspiracy theory that you want to be true.
Why would a question be a conspiracy theory?
So you're saying something that a handful of doctors on these boards suggest is happening isn't actually happening? Okay, but I'd still like to know how often this thing that's not happening is happening. Unlike you, I don't have preconceived notions of how frequent it is. It was an honest question.
quote:
Everyone is at risk and dying is not the only negative vector.
This is the sort of bullshite that shouldn't be coming from a guy wanting to get those at risk vaccinated.
quote:
In any event, I just want shite to go back to normal - and it will not when this stuff keeps happening. The fantasy that the vaccines are actually toxic (more toxic than the actual virus!) is silly and counterproductive.
I've never suggested the vaccines are toxic. A lot of other skeptics (of blanket vaccinating, everyone get in line) don't believe vaccines are toxic. Maybe most skeptics. And you need to understand your argument that everybody is at risk and needs to be vaccinated is as counterproductive as the moronic argument that vaccines are a depopulation conspiracy.
Posted on 8/31/21 at 4:21 pm to Open Your Eyes
quote:I voted for Trump - the most pro-vac POTUS in our history. At some points, the left was actually excoriating him for being so pro vax. The question is: when did you leave the Trump train?
Tell that to the people you voted for that are constantly bemoaning “cases”
This is what you wanted. This is what you voted for.
Posted on 8/31/21 at 4:22 pm to Blue_Rocky
quote:I don't know if they said that, but if it's wrong, it's wrong.
But, they ALSO said that if you've been infected, the re-infect rate is about 1% A
quote:Yes, that is, thankfully, quite true.
they said that if you're vaccinated, your odds of needing hospitalization go extremely down.
quote:Right. Because delta is much more infectious and the unvaxxed are needing to go to the hospital.
Yet. Somehow, we are being told our hospitals are being over run.
quote:Right. Because it's a way more infectious variant.
This means that somehow, with less than half the population that was at hospitalization risk in early 2020, we STILL have similar hospitalization total numbers.
None of this is rocket science. Why are you so committed to misunderstanding it?
Posted on 8/31/21 at 4:23 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:I'm still pro-Trump..........that said........while Trump is pro-vax...........I'd bet you dollars to donuts he wouldn't be running around threatening everyone's jobs and living experiences over it
I voted for Trump - the most pro-vac POTUS in our history. At some points, the left was actually excoriating him for being so pro vax. The question is: when did you leave the Trump train?
THAT is where the problem is.
Posted on 8/31/21 at 4:23 pm to Blue_Rocky
quote:The variant is a lot more infectious than alpha (or whatever they call the first one.) Not more acute (actually could be LESS acute) but more infectious.
I wanna know how the frick you cut the number of at risk by more than half and end up with the same level of hospitalization numbers!
This post was edited on 8/31/21 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 8/31/21 at 4:24 pm to Blue_Rocky
quote:Third try: Delta is way more infectious. If we had had delta back in 2020, shite would have been way worse since way more people would have been infected.
But how?
They are as at risk today as they were 12 months ago
SUPPOSEDLY, more than half the nation is at FAR LESS risk than they were 12 months ago.
Thus...........do I have to spell it out???
Posted on 8/31/21 at 4:24 pm to WeeWee
quote:Not only is this stupid, but I voted for Trump - or should we call him Mr. Vaccine?
Actually yes we will get there but it will take time. There are approximately 90 million unvaccinated Americans (I got that from Tucker Carlson last week) and the USA has averaged 2,000,000 Covid cases per month. So in about 4 years to get there.
Of course it’s only right that covid sinks the Biden and Harris Presidency since Biden and his POS supporters politicized the virus and the vaccine. Karma is a bitch. Hopefully you liberals remember that next time you use a plague to steal an election.
Posted on 8/31/21 at 4:25 pm to CDawson
quote:It's potentially true since they are going back to their ordinary lives. Then, the anti-vaxxers are filling up the hospitals and we have to shut down for their stupid asses. It's like the 40 coonasses who stayed at Grand Isle for Ida.
It's also widely know that the vaxxers are super spreaders.
Posted on 8/31/21 at 4:26 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:Cool. Is their chance lower than had they never been infected? If so, the general point stands.
I don't know if they said that, but if it's wrong, it's wrong.
quote:Which contributes to the point
Yes, that is, thankfully, quite true.
quote:How much more infectious. I'll happily look at the data supporting this assertion?
Right. Because delta is much more infectious and the unvaxxed are needing to go to the hospital.
quote:Do you realize how much more infectious Delta has to be to make up for the vaccinated and prior infected and dead?
Right. Because it's a way more infectious variant.
None of this is rocket science. Why are you so committed to misunderstanding it?
And not just make up for it, but actually MORE than make up for it.
This isn't rocket science. Why are you so committed to misunderstanding it?
Posted on 8/31/21 at 4:26 pm to David_DJS
quote:What do you mean? I've been vaxxed for months. My only slight concern at this point is the chance of "long" covid. I'm not down to lose my smell the rest of my life (or whatever). I'm way more scared of something like that than dying. Dying doesn't even cross my mind.
This is the sort of bullshite that shouldn't be coming from a guy wanting to get those at risk vaccinated.
Posted on 8/31/21 at 4:27 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:Way more isn't a quantifiable assertion.
Third try: Delta is way more infectious.
Point me to the data you are using. You can't just say, "way more".
quote:See above
If we had had delta back in 2020, shite would have been way worse since way more people would have been infected.
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