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re: 74.1% of US adults have at least one dose. 63.4% of adults are fully vaccinated.
Posted on 8/31/21 at 5:30 pm to Blue_Rocky
Posted on 8/31/21 at 5:30 pm to Blue_Rocky
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and the answer to this is "no" and has ALWAYS been no.
Yep. That’s the dirty little secret in this whole mess. As long as everybody is fighting about masks and vaccines, nobody bothers to notice it’s all about a bad cold for all but a small segment of the population.
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Posted on 8/31/21 at 5:31 pm to the808bass
I have only seen 62.4% according to the Mayo clinic as having received one dose as of August 30. I think the CDC numbers are way off.
Posted on 8/31/21 at 5:33 pm to Willie Stroker
quote:Thank you. I'll tell you what happened: when I googled it the first time (the verbatim quote from some other poster), basically nothing came up. That hardly feels by accident.
You’re paying attention to some remarks he made later. The article I linked was about actual remarks he made on that date during a CNN Townhall. I linked an article that quoted him. But maybe you’re one of those slow readers and prefer videos where the news source chose a video that misrepresents their own content. I admit my error in trusting that news outlets would actually support their content with video evidence. I’m not a fan of sitting through ads and find I can absorb more by reading instead.
There are other sources. Even CNN acknowledges it happened during their planned and scripted “town hall” event. shite, the Whitehouse even owns up to it.
You can read the verbatim transcript LINK . Since it appears you are lazy, I’ll try to make it simple for you. Do a word search for “Covid “ he makes that quote the very first time that word appears in the interview.
Even worse than Biden saying this was Psaki afterwards:
quote:
"Well, what the science says is that 97% of hospitalizations are people who were unvaccinated," Psaki said Thursday. "So yes, there are cases of individuals who are vaccinated, to be absolutely clear, who have gotten Covid -- it is a very small percentage, and a small number of people, and those cases, the vast, vast, vast majority, are asymptomatic and they have, they have minor symptoms, which means that you are largely protected -- that was the point he was trying to make last night."
Talk about doubling down.
LINK
Posted on 8/31/21 at 5:34 pm to David_DJS
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Yep. That’s the dirty little secret in this whole mess. As long as everybody is fighting about masks and vaccines, nobody bothers to notice it’s all about a bad cold for all but a small segment of the population.
Exactly. It's the most unscary pandemic in the history of pandemics. Yet, we have actual human moms "scared" their children might get it. I'm like. "Bitch, your child has a better chance of dying falling down your stairs".
It's a disease with over 70% of it's victims over the age of 70. Almost 60% over the age of 75. A VERY significant number of those who died from COVID in this age group are people who, absent covid, were STILL going to die in 2020.
In terms of risk to rest of the population.........this shite isn't something that should have even made front page news
Posted on 8/31/21 at 5:35 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:And THEN, they insult and make fun of people who don't trust them!!!!
Talk about doubling down.
Posted on 8/31/21 at 5:36 pm to Blue_Rocky
quote:That's actually higher chance than I thought. I don't think that's less than a car accident. But in any event, I do a lot to mitigate my car driving risk, yes. I frequently remind people it's probably the most dangerous thing they do on a regular basis by far. I drive a new model SUV, scrupulously wear my seat belt and actually know how to drive. I can guarantee you that makes my risk below the population average. Just like taking the vaccine lessens my chance of worse covid outcomes.
Mayo says 50-75% get this symptom and that only 10% of those who even GET this symptom, experience some permanent loss.
So. You are "scared" of something that is less likely to happen to you in the next year than dying in a car accident? Have you changed your driving habits in the last year? Do you ONLY drive when you MUST? I mean, ya know. Since you are so easily scared.
I don't scare easily. I live my life normally. I'm waiting for everyone else to catch up. Look for me on TV this weekend - I'll be the unmasked LSU fan at the game.
Posted on 8/31/21 at 5:38 pm to Froman
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Your chances of getting it drop dramatically if you are vaccinated and we’d be in a lot better shape now if people would quit being little bitches and just man up and get this shite.
But cases continue to increase while vaccinated people increase even though the vaccine reduces people from getting it?
Did you even read what you just typed?
Posted on 8/31/21 at 5:42 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:10% chance of it being permanent out of the say, 75% chance of getting the symptom out of whatever fractional chance you have of getting COVID at all?
That's actually higher chance than I thought. I don't think that's less than a car accident.
LOL. Yeah. It's A LOT lower than car accident.
quote:As should EVERY LSU fan who wants to be there should........but for a bunch of scaredy cat totalitarians
I don't scare easily. I live my life normally. I'm waiting for everyone else to catch up. Look for me on TV this weekend - I'll be the unmasked LSU fan at the game.
Posted on 8/31/21 at 5:55 pm to Froman
I'm quite certain you have never manned up to anything in your life.
You know I'm right. And those who know you know I'm right.
You know I'm right. And those who know you know I'm right.
Posted on 8/31/21 at 6:28 pm to Big Scrub TX
Big Scrub - I'm not going to hunt for the post of yours I'm responding to, but regarding Covid hospitalizations that are about something other than Covid, some anecdotal evidence - Stanford's teaching hospital has reported that 30% of Covid patients under the age of 20 are asymptomatic for CV19. An interesting data point.
Posted on 8/31/21 at 6:34 pm to David_DJS
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Big Scrub - I'm not going to hunt for the post of yours I'm responding to, but regarding Covid hospitalizations that are about something other than Covid, some anecdotal evidence - Stanford's teaching hospital has reported that 30% of Covid patients under the age of 20 are asymptomatic for CV19. An interesting data point.
AND....with over 70% of the fatalities to people age 70 or older.......a group that has this odd tendency to die anyway......what percentage died WITH Covid rather than OF Covid?
We KNOW that number simply HAS to be large and yet, there has been exactly zero attempt to quantify that number publicly. You literally cannot find it despite the fact that it should have been a relatively simple exercise to figure out.
I say should HAVE been because in all likelihood, we literally AVOIDED figuring it out and doing so retroactively will probably be impossible.
Posted on 8/31/21 at 6:43 pm to RiverCityTider
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You can't get herd immunity with a leaky vax. Which begs the question, how do you get rid of it?
You can't get herd immunity without an epitope-biased serum antibody response, in my estimation. Herd immunity itself has been relatively rare without cutting out the transmission method, which is the primary way of controlling the infection rate. Given that we aren't going to cut out the transmission method, and we aren't pursuing an epitope-biased response, that means we aren't going to get rid of it.
Posted on 8/31/21 at 7:14 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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We were told 75-85% of vaccinated would lead to the end of the virus.
Actually, they told us 30-35% and we'd start seeing herd immunity. That was some bullshite.
Posted on 8/31/21 at 8:06 pm to Blue_Rocky
It will be a right pocket left pocket with covid, heart disease and cancer most likely
Posted on 8/31/21 at 8:09 pm to the808bass
Glad to be part of the 25.9%.
Posted on 8/31/21 at 9:04 pm to Blue_Rocky
quote:Wait, so now the vaccines prevent infection?
whatever fractional chance you have of getting COVID at all?
Posted on 8/31/21 at 9:49 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:WTF are you talking about.
Wait, so now the vaccines prevent infection?
I said 10% chance of permanent out of no more than 75% chance of the symptom if you get it out of whatever fractional chance you have of getting it at all.
You DO realize that no virus strikes 100% of the population, right? I mean, you DO realize that, right?
I didn't say shite about vaccines. Some of you seem to legit thing that given enough time, a virus will infect 100% of the people.
Good Grief.
Posted on 8/31/21 at 10:06 pm to Blue_Rocky
quote:You said:
WTF are you talking about.
quote:
whatever fractional chance you have of getting it at all
I took that to mean fractional chance of getting covid.
As in the conditional probability of .1 on .75 ON .x of me getting covid in the first place. If that's not what you meant, then I apologize, but it's unclear.
What does the "it" in "getting it at all" refer to?
Posted on 8/31/21 at 10:09 pm to Blue_Rocky
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10% chance of it being permanent out of the say, 75% chance of getting the symptom out of whatever fractional chance you have of getting COVID at all?
What fractional chance did you have in mind? The zeitgeist on this board is "everyone is gonna get it eventually" because "the vaccines don't work". What fraction did you have in mind?
I have unvaccinated kids in my immediate circle who are attending school in person and from whom I am not going to quarantine myself. I've sort of just been generically assuming I'll get it.
If I just plug in 30% "fractional chance" into your formula, that leaves me with a whopping 2.2% chance of losing my smell/taste permanently. (Ironically, I think you are probably way too high on that, but whatever.) The LIFETIME odds for the AVERAGE motorist of dying in a car crash are 1 in 105 or something like that.
Your entire formulation is off it would appear and you also seem more interested in just being an a-hole. I'm actually trying to have a discussion with you here. My mistake?
This post was edited on 8/31/21 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 8/31/21 at 10:20 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:Yes. Of getting Covid. I mean, did you read the rest of the post you typed this response to? Sheesh. It wasn't that long
I took that to mean fractional chance of getting covid.
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