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re: 57% of US households can't afford to buy a $300K home today. The median is around $408K

Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:29 am to
Posted by swamptiger99
Member since Aug 2024
373 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:29 am to
lol, Blackrock will swoop in and pay cash faster than a couple that is local to the area and starting out.

I will own nothing and will be happy about it.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
57897 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:29 am to
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So what's the solution?

Deflation


I don't disagree but you need a strong recession to get that kind of deflation (because it needs to be across the board, not just housing).

We're likely in a recession already (defined as two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth). How strong it will be is another matter, but if it pops the consumer debt bubble then it's going to be strong indeed.
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
9567 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:31 am to
I get a half dozen “WE WANT TO BUY YOUR HOUSE!” Cards a week. I live in a nice but older neighborhood with lots of retirees, and these companies can practically smell their impending funerals, and are trying to swoop in like vultures and turn all the single family houses into rentals. Kids today are paying more for rent on houses than I was paying in mortgage notes 7 years ago. They'll never be able to actually buy at this rate.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11003 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:31 am to
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Are you saying people in their 50s are being handed cash for down payments as a general rule?


Nowhere did I say all Boomers. And I was speaking of Boomers with kids mostly in their 30's. And lets be very clear here there are two subsets of Boomers - the greedy selfish kind who wouldn't give their kid $100 bucks if it would save their life and the generous unselfish kind who will help their kids starting out in life with things like a 20% down payment on a home. Also, I'm not advocating for Boomer parents to just hand over tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars to their kids. Heck, some Boomers don't have it and can't even if they wanted to.

Here are two things that are going to transform this country in the next 10 years:

-Boomers dying off and transferring Trillions in wealth to their kids/nephews/nieces.
-Automation, AI, Robotics are going to eliminate A LOT of Blue AND White collar jobs. We are going to have a glut of people out of work not by their own choosing.

Off the top of my head I can name several family members and friends who had Boomer parents pay the down payment on a home they otherwise could not afford. Are they all doing this? Absolutely not but its more common than you think.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59119 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:32 am to
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We also have whole neighborhoods that could benefit from gentrification but gentrification is racist.


There are no federal regulations stopping gentrification. It just happens. People are going to sell their houses and properties to the highest bidder 99% of the time.

I agree with the premise of your post, though. As a homeowner, idc if my house is worth less if all the rest of the houses are also worth less.

The over-inflated market is starting to correct in New Orleans, it seems.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59119 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:32 am to
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Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
4649 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:34 am to
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shrinking group of buyers who can actually afford your house.


You seem to not understand that these same folks know how to save the environment and they can identify all the various genders popping up daily.

That is truly knowledge. Follow that up with a 4 year degree in Liberal Arts.

They claim to know everything, but are going no where but becoming a burden to society to support.

I mean, who needs public schooling on reading, writing, and arithmetic? Knowing how to cook and sew for yourself? Typing and writing cursive? Learning basic banking? Having trade profession courses in high school?

Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91467 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:38 am to
bought my first house in nashville in 1997 for 135k and i was TERRIFIED i wouldn't be able to afford the mortgage. i remember thinking i would never be able to pay 6 figures for a house.

if i hadn't, i would have never been able to 'move up' the house ladder to where i am today.

it makes me feel bad for young people who are buying their first homes in this area. the houses haven't gotten any better; my first house is still a crappy little vinyl siding cape code on a postage stamp yard on a busy road but its crazy how much its sold for recently.

Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
1766 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:38 am to
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I will own nothing and will be happy about it.


Your happiness doesn’t depend on you owning things
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19400 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:41 am to
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Wages have NOT kept up! Nor have job expectations.

This is what I never understood about people complaining about the salaries of gov employees. The truth is gov wages have somewhat kept up with inflation while the private sector has not.

People on here have been conditioned to believe that the current wages are fair, free market, blah blah.

You can see the class gap increasing and wage growth has played a major part of it.
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
4892 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:41 am to
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Many of you scoff at those who ask for more than 70k for a starting salary.


Gen X here. I scoff at the kids walking in asking for 70k starting salary because 90% of the kids who are starting in the workforce today are absolutely terrible.

If they were as capable and prepared as earlier generations, people wouldn't scoff as much.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179556 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:42 am to
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There are no federal regulations stopping gentrification.



I didn't say that. I am saying we need to encourage it more.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
18346 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:46 am to
Look at the size of the houses they are building compared to 100 years ago, fifty years ago. My parents first house was a little over 1000 square feet. That house was built in 1924, fifty years later houses were 1600-1800 square feet. Now the average house is 2687 square feet. No wonder people can’t afford that. Fewer children and bigger houses doesn’t make sense.



Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
9567 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:47 am to
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There is going to be a huge transfer of wealth when Boome


Nope. Boomers are spending that inheritance away. Only 1out of 5 Boomers will leave anything behind for their descendants:

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Retirees of the “Me” generation have done plenty for their children, thank you, and want to spend their remaining years enjoying their money.


And their wealth was always exaggerated anyway. Lots are in bad shape:

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The typical senior with a retirement account has about $200,000  saved, according to data from the 2022 Survey of Consumer Finances for households in the 65-74 age range. But only about half of those households report having retirement accounts at all. The other half might fear there will be nothing left after their death. Indeed, retirement experts say much of the Great Wealth Transfer may go to hospitals and long-term care facilities as boomers confront the perils of old age.


Living longer means bigger expenses.

USA Today article on Northwest Mutual’s study on Boomer financials
Posted by swamptiger99
Member since Aug 2024
373 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:47 am to
Sure wish I could buy a home, instead I'll be renting forever
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
18346 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:48 am to
Get a degree in engineering if you want that wage.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59119 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:49 am to
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There is going to be a huge transfer of wealth when Boomer parents and aunt and uncles start dying off en masse


This money is all going to end of life care, not descendants.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
3329 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:49 am to
If you can't afford to purchase a home where you "want" to live, it's time to grow up and live where you can afford.
Posted by swamptiger99
Member since Aug 2024
373 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:51 am to
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it's time to grow up and live where you can afford.


There are no jobs.

What a shite take you have
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59119 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:51 am to
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I didn't say that. I am saying we need to encourage it more.



Encouraged how?

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