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4chubbies, VOR, SFP, or any leftists who want to chime in

Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:04 pm
Posted by LSUbacchus81
Hendersonville, TN
Member since Aug 2007
4756 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:04 pm
Where are you guys coming from when you say 'it's not illegal to be undocumented'? Your comrades say that since it's only a civil offense, it's not a crime.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
165980 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:05 pm to
Have any of them actually said this or are you just being intentionally stupid?
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
49853 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:05 pm to
To be fair, SFP is not a leftist.

He’s a Comey Republican.
Posted by da foozball
Member since Nov 2012
537 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:07 pm to
Your inquiring people that voted for Kamala. These are commies and are not well in the head.
Posted by da foozball
Member since Nov 2012
537 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:08 pm to
See, this is one of them
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452700 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:08 pm to
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Where are you guys coming from when you say 'it's not illegal to be undocumented'? Y


I have never said such a silly thing
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
165980 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:09 pm to
Has anyone actually said what OP is claiming? Seems like he's just making things up because he can't articulate anything worth listening to.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
71646 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:09 pm to
The poster “fells”, who is (was) one of the most widely respected posters on the sec rant and the Alabama sub forum came to this board and advocated for ICE agents to be shot.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
31269 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:10 pm to
quote:

He’s a Comey Republican.

No

Hes a left leaning libertarian
Posted by LSUbacchus81
Hendersonville, TN
Member since Aug 2007
4756 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:10 pm to
quote:

Have any of them actually said this or are you just being intentionally stupid?


100% I've heard you morons say this.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
88216 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:11 pm to
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He’s a Commie Republican.



Fify
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18137 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:11 pm to
Crossing the border illegally is criminal.

Just being here illegally is a civil penalty, which usually results in removal.
This post was edited on 6/9/25 at 7:12 pm
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17809 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:12 pm to
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Where are you guys coming from when you say 'it's not illegal to be undocumented'? Your comrades say that since it's only a civil offense, it's not a crime.
don't hold your breath.

What they say is true, but debatable. What's debatable is does that refer to "while in the process" of crossing the border. In other words they haven't established themselves in the US then it is civil and not criminal.

Sort of like possessing burglary tools standing at someone's door is still not burglary.

However, there is one little line in there they conveniently ignore that is in most, as in vast majority, of the Federal system of civil penalties that says:

"Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed."
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
14309 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:15 pm to
Dems are once again, on the wrong side of history on this topic. They're literally siding with criminals.

...which isn't at all surprising.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
165980 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:17 pm to
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100% I've heard you morons say this.

Should be pretty easy to prove
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
8590 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:17 pm to
quote:

To be fair, SFP is not a leftist. He’s a Comey Republican.


So, a Leftist.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
14309 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:17 pm to
No

Crossing a border illegally is a crime. Entering or attempting to enter the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers can result in criminal penalties, including fines and imprisonment.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
21595 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:20 pm to
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Have any of them actually said this or are you just being intentionally stupid?


Are you actually asking, or have any other reason to imply this person is wrong, or otherwise stupid?….

This is called taking sides. Everyone sees it.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
78522 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:20 pm to
Powerstupid to the rescue!
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17809 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:20 pm to
quote:

No

Crossing a border illegally is a crime. Entering or attempting to enter the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers can result in criminal penalties, including fines and imprisonment.
you missed my last line(s).

"Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed."

It is BOTH.
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