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re: 2020 election fraud question
Posted on 8/19/23 at 11:48 am to billjamin
Posted on 8/19/23 at 11:48 am to billjamin
quote:GOP plaintiff prevailed on 14 of the 21 cases decided on the merits
Which ones?
So when evidence is actually presented
Posted on 8/19/23 at 11:51 am to bhtigerfan
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And he still lost the county?
Yes, he lost the county by losing the lion's share of 2016 voters that voted 3rd party.
Trump's vote total went up by nearly 250K, about 33% over 2016.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 11:51 am to Adam Banks
quote:Says who?
And Biden had more than that
It's amazing. People can't answer the question
Posted on 8/19/23 at 11:54 am to bhtigerfan
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His share in Philadelphia county went up as well. 82.53% - 15.37% in 2016 81.44% - 17.90% in 2020Once again. quote:More than 749,000 voters cast ballots in Philadelphia, out of 1.1 million registered voters in the city. The 68% turnout was the highest in decades, according to one of the three city commissioners.
So a lot of people who were hurting economically and watched riots burn their city wouldnt be very motivated to see a change in leadership?
Listen.
I think it was the most asinine thing in the world and you can look at my posts in 2020 and see this isn’t just hot air.
I lived in suburban major metro.
People who even acknowledged stuff as out of hand in the riots still were saying that were voting for Biden to get things back to normal
Posted on 8/19/23 at 11:56 am to bhtigerfan
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More than 749,000 voters cast ballots in Philadelphia, out of 1.1 million registered voters in the city. The 68% turnout was the highest in decades, according to one of the three city commissioners.
Turnout was up everywhere. I'm not sure what your point is. My point is clear. Despite turnout being higher, Trump closed the gap in Philadelphia County. How could he have done that and lost the state? He lost too much ground in the suburbs. (Allegheny, Delaware and Montgomery)
Also you need to edit your claim about Atlanta being what cost Trump the election. Weird that you skipped over that post.
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You guys really need to adjust this claim. Trump lost Georgia because of Gwinnett and Cobb counties.
Cobb
2016 Trump lost by 2.2% (-7,209 votes)
2020 Trump lost by 14.31% (-56,411 votes)
Gwinnett
2016 Trump lost by 5.88% (-19,164 votes)
2020 Trump lost by 18.24% (-75,594 votes)
Trump's own pollster analyzed exit polling and determined that Trump lost the election due to suburban white men flipping enough to swing the election to Biden. The numbers back that up. It wasn't Atlanta or Fulton county. It was Republicans in the suburbs who grew tired of Trump.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 11:56 am to bhtigerfan
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Yeah, nothing fishy about that.
I'm not sure what's fishy about a 64% turnout for midterms that includes a wildly contested governor's race.
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And Maricopa has 4% more registered Republicans than Democrats.
Maricopa County has about 13% more Republicans than Democrats, and there are more Independents than Republicans.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 11:58 am to TheQuestion
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Says who? It's amazing. People can't answer the question
Says me.
You asked for my opinion and I’m giving it. With just as much evidence as you have.
I’m looking at states where Biden racked up massive amounts of votes and still lost those states.
Those votes count towards 81 million. When you also use that as a measure of political temperature it’s easy to see how states that Trump won with extremely small margins (ie Michigan Pennsylvania Wisconsin) could flip blue
Posted on 8/19/23 at 12:04 pm to Adam Banks
quote:brilliant
So a lot of people who were hurting economically and watched riots burn their city wouldnt be very motivated to see a change in leadership?
vote for the side that burns down your city
Posted on 8/19/23 at 12:14 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
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brilliant vote for the side that burns down your city
Believe me.
I watched it happening in real time.
I felt like mugato daily
“But this wouldn’t be happening if Trump wasn’t such an a-hole”
Just because people are idiots in that manner doesn’t mean we give them control of our nomination. If there is no other conservative then screw them we nominate the conservative. However the problem is Don is neither the most conservative nor the most electable.
This post was edited on 8/19/23 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 8/19/23 at 12:19 pm to Adam Banks
quote:
I lived in suburban major metro.
People who even acknowledged stuff as out of hand in the riots still were saying that were voting for Biden to get things back to normal
whoa there now - you LISTENED to people who were mad about the RIOTs but were blaming them on TRUMP???
Did you mock them for the idiocy of that statement??
OR
Were (are) you of the opinion that = "IF we just turn the place over to the criminal element, they will at least leave us alone - so I guess we better vote for "any democrat"
Posted on 8/19/23 at 12:29 pm to westerntigerfan
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quote:tell me why they stopped the count in six swing states, kicked out all observers and counted in secret in the middle of the night until the flipped the results at 4 am in the morning
That only happened if you get all of your news from conservative treehouse.
I was watching the returns on FNC when they announced the multi state tabulation shutdown…..lol
Posted on 8/19/23 at 12:33 pm to ChineseBandit58
quote:
whoa there now - you LISTENED to people who were mad about the RIOTs but were blaming them on TRUMP??? Did you mock them for the idiocy of that statement?? OR Were (are) you of the opinion that = "IF we just turn the place over to the criminal element, they will at least leave us alone - so I guess we better vote for "any democrat
It’s called not being in an echo chamber and maybe you should try listening or reading because this was in that post
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I think it was the most asinine thing in the world
I get thought it’s much easier to believe fraud when you are in bunkie Louisiana and your truth social feed is full of Alex brueswitz and Johnny MAGA.
It was hard for me to believe it and I was actively watching them say it.
It was depressing seeing them post “I voted stickers” knowing how dumb their opinions that they based their vote on were
Just know that it wasn’t isolated, it was a “red state” and land don’t vote.
The DFW metroplex has 3 million more people than the ENTIRE state of Louisiana. Austin over half Louisiana. St. Louis over half. I know Biden ran better margins than Hillary in DFW and I’d strongly bet Austin and St. Louis as well.
All those were red states but count into 81 million
This post was edited on 8/19/23 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 8/19/23 at 12:49 pm to shoelessjoe
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And this is where the fraud was at. What you are failing to explain is that the states legisture is supposed to be used as a way to change voting laws. In 2016 voting laws were changed in key states to allow mail in voting and other means of voting without using the states legislative branch to change laws. The SOS of these states changed them using executive power that it doesn’t have. That is a fraudulent election when it’s all said and done.
This is the weakest complaint when it comes to challenging the election results. The real kicker is that, up until 2020, Republicans were generally in favor of expanded absentee voting, because they have jobs and better things to do than stand in long voting lines.
Some states improperly changed their voting laws. Granted, that should not have happened that way, and residents of those states should be upset over it.
But it wasn't "fraudulent". There was no deception or dishonesty involved. It was done openly and with plenty of time for people to object, and in many cases was set up by Republicans.
The time to challenge these procedures was BEFORE the elections. Once the elections go forward with procedures that may have been improperly enacted, the general public relies on those procedures to cast their votes. You don't wait until your guy loses to question the validity of the procedure.
In Georgia, Republicans were the ones who pushed for no-excuse absentee voting. The laws were already in place. In 2020, the State election commission decided to use drop boxes, which may have been illegal without legislative approval. Also, for the primary elections, the SOS sent absentee ballot applications to all registered voters.
And Stacy Abrams sued. That's right, the Democratic leader did not like the new rules. They settled the lawsuit by changing the signature match procedure.
Any candidate or registered voter could have challenged the Constitutionality of the new voting rules before the election. After the election it was too late to complain. How could one even remedy the result, other than holding a whole new election?
Posted on 8/19/23 at 1:07 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Jesus Christ, y'all are delusional.
Typical Democrat strategy - respond with name calling.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 1:12 pm to Adam Banks
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Because people hated Trump
Why was that? Was it because of the non-stop effort by Democrats/MSM from the day of Trumps election in 2016 to do everything possible including lying at every opportunity to destroy Trump and his reputation? It was the most disgusting hatchet job I've ever seen done to a single person in my life.
Now throw in the cheating that had to occur to STILL get Biden elected. The whole thing is sickening and probably signaled the final countdown to the end of the USA as we knew it.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 5:35 pm to Vrai
quote:A water main didn't break. A urinal overflowed in the early morning of November 3, but it had no effect on voting or counting.
I guess you'll say they never said a water main broke in Georgia causing the count to stop there
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:17 pm to Adam Banks
quote:So you know this for a fact then?
Says me
quote:I asked who said that Biden got 81 mil? Do you believe them? Based on what?
You asked for my opinion
quote:Ostensibly
Biden racked up massive amounts of votes
quote:But we know that many of them were problematic and the government lied about many of them
Those votes count towards 81 million
quote:If you believe that the government is telling you the truth about Biden's votes, which is a naive position to take
it’s easy to see how states that Trump won with extremely small margins (ie Michigan Pennsylvania Wisconsin) could flip blue
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:19 pm to Adam Banks
quote:Fraud has been proven. Many times over. More than the margin of victory. Perhaps you missed the news.
I get thought it’s much easier to believe fraud when you are in bunkie Louisiana and your truth social feed is full of Alex brueswitz and Johnny MAGA
quote:If you naively believe the government
I know Biden ran better margins than Hillary in DFW and I’d strongly bet Austin and St. Louis as well
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:22 pm to Dday63
quote:While there is some truth to this, it doesn't address the monumental, rampant fraud that occurred during the election process
The time to challenge these procedures was BEFORE the elections
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