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re: 2020 election fraud question

Posted on 9/6/23 at 4:14 pm to
Posted by TheQuestion
Member since May 2023
191 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 4:14 pm to
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why doesnt someone post a coherent exploration of the claims?
We can do that but, it doesn't prove that there wasn't fraud because jurisprudence is not always and only about the truth. Sometimes guilty people go free and innocent people are convicted.

But that's not the point. Do you know of any cases where the evidence was presented in court? I know an AZ court just ruled against the SOS. I know the VoterGA case is about to proceed. We'll see how they go. But to not err on the side of caution by investigating each and every accusation regarding our elections is just unacceptable.

The cases that I read were problematic in that they were somewhat novel. Judges had issues deciding exactly who was harmed and therefore standing was a roadblock in some of the cases.
Posted by TheQuestion
Member since May 2023
191 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 4:25 pm to
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suspicious? very suspicious! who said? what happened? some?.. a number
Signature matching irregularities

Even Hank admits "Secretary of State was using a much broader basis for comparison and thus approving many signatures that did NOT match the registration card."
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14214 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 10:35 pm to
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Cyber Ninjas Response
The Ninjas used the Melissa commercial database to compile their statistics. You have to be a complete fool to think you can use a commercial database to check election results.

Mellssa says their database covers 80% of the adults in the U. S. There are 3 million voters in Maricopa County. That means there are 600,000 Maricopa voters that are NOT in the Melissa database.

Gee, no wonder the Ninjas vote numbers are pure crap.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73772 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 10:38 pm to
Weird you are avoiding the illegals double dipping thread
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16453 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 10:44 pm to
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Mellssa says their database covers 80% of the adults in the U. S. There are 3 million voters in Maricopa County. That means there are 600,000 Maricopa voters that are NOT in the Melissa database.


Not familiar with the database or report but are you claiming it's an 80% constant across all locales? Could it be 100% in one county and 60% of another equally populated county?
Posted by IronMikeD
CA
Member since Aug 2023
367 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 11:00 pm to
This is a very popular subject on this board.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14214 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 12:15 am to
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Not familiar with the database or report but are you claiming it's an 80% constant across all locales? Could it be 100% in one county and 60% of another equally populated county?

80% is a general average.

You're right. It could be more or less in one county. Arizona has 15 counties so the variance would likely be less for the entire state than looking at single county.

But, just for sale of argument, let's assume that there are 10% of Arizona adults that are not in the Melissa data. That's 300,000 people in Maricopa missing from the database the Ninjas were using.

That's NOT close enough for governmemt work.
This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 12:34 am
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16453 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 12:21 am to
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But, just for sale of argument, let's assume that there are 10% of Atizona adults that are not in the Melissa data. That's 300,000 people in Arizona missing from the database the Ninjas were using.

That's NOT close enough for governmemt work.


Understood. But if you're gonna question its use for a given county, you would need to know what its pct was for that county. Everywhere else is irrelevant.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14214 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 12:28 am to
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But to not err on the side of caution by investigating each and every accusation regarding our elections is just unacceptable.

This is the second time you have posted this idiocy. "Each and every" accusation. Trump made a bogus election claim virtually every day.

Investigating every one of them would be "Wack-A-Mole" squared.

You're not a serious poster.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21897 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 7:11 am to
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why doesnt someone post a coherent exploration of the claims?

We can do that


Past experience has shown that you cannot do that, because your claims are bullshite.
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